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Garry gjcutlerfildew@blueyonder.co.uk
09-30-2003, 04:00 AM
Where should I start?...well, I'm really not employed at the moment, but my last job was as a contractor working in Munich, Germany. I worked for a really large computer company there helping to troubleshoot problems with their Electronic Commerce systems. I must say that it was a rather nice job in a lot of ways. First, it paid well. The cost of labor in Germany is rather high, so when you work as a contractor, all those benefits get translated to cash. You can make a rather large sum and still be cheaper than normal employees with half the salary who can't be fired, get 6 weeks of vacation, an endless string of bank holidays, government protection on working too many hours, etc....



Munich is an awfully nice city too. There are a lot of expatriates and I got to go out a lot. Indeed, an amazing amount of my pay went towards alcohol consumption. Before I did this, I worked in New York doing programming work, but it wasn't the most fulfilling of things. Still, I was young and nobody was going to pay me a whole lot to do anything other than computer work, so if I was going to do computer work, I might as well do it abroad. That's the nice thing about computer work, there is enough demand that one can do such things.



I got my job through an agency ad on a web site. The agency made a percentage (I'm guessing about 20%, but I'm not sure) of my earnings from the company. It was quite intruiging how they interviewed me on the phone and gave me the job without seeing me, but I suppose that is the nature of the high tech industry these days (1999).



I worked there for almost a year, basically for the money and the fun of living in Munich (lots of skiing and beer). It was an enjoyable year and the job itself wasn't so hard. Life in Europe is a bit slower paced, and so work tends to be a bit more relaxed as well. It is fairly easy for most Americans to seem like really hard workers in comparison. The job was also a lot less technical than one might have thought. Since I was troubleshooting support problems, the main issue was pinpointing the problem through asking the correct questions of the correct people. Fixing things was usually either trivial, or one contacted another group (ie. the Database guys, the hard core programmers) in which case the most important part of the job was to be personable to the people who were inconvenienced while the work was underway.



A large part of the time, things wouldn't go wrong and so one would spend one's time getting things in order or documenting things or just catching up on the latest news from the US. I suppose we were working on issues that meant millions of dollars (ie. an order for 20,000 computers comes in and gets lost), so it is worth having us around for that issue, even if we aren't particularly busy during the rest of the day. My supervisor was always understanding of this and really had a good head on his shoulders. As long as the people using our services were happy (and they were), he was happy.



Another good thing is that support work gives one an immediate sense of satisfaction .Unlike programming where success is measured every 3 months when a release is done, support work has daily affirmation as you have people who call with problems and you solve them. It's kind of like being the pizza guy who delivers to hungry college students....they are always grateful.



Still, I quit the job for a reason. Something about working with computers makes one naturally question the value of what you do. It's not like building a chair where you create something from nothing. Since you aren't creating anything tangible, it's easy to wonder why one spends so much time on it.



This is my problem in general. I'm always wondering why I'm doing something. For example, a lot of people would have stayed at that last job as there were a lot of great things about it. Unfortunately, I am not one of those people as I'm always wondering how I'm going to make my mark on the world. Making money is ok, but I feel like I've been given so much and would love to use it to help others. It's not like I worked so hard for what I have and so I feel a responsibility to make something of it. If I stuck with that job, it would be the equivalent of having been given 100 points by my parents andfinishing the game with the same 100 points. Even if everyone else has fewer points, Istill don't feel like I've played the game very well.



My parents, on the other hand, played the game very well and that is perhaps where I get my need to make something more of myself. They both came from poorer countries and created a life in the US through academic achievement. I was born in the US already and was given every academic opportunity, so I really ought to be able to do better.



So what now? Well, I'm back in the US and working on a few ventures from which I hope to strike it rich. It isn't so much the riches I need, so much as freedom to have more of an impact on the world and not be caught up in the daily grind. I'm also trying to do lots of volunteer work. Still, I hear the call of those contract programmer dollars and could easily see myself going to some other country and repeating the Munich experience on days when my goals seem out of reach. Not a bad way to live, but I at least have to take my shot at the moon....stay tuned....

Alison alison_tn@yahoo.com
09-30-2003, 04:00 AM
I know exactly how you feel. I work with computers all day long (in a support/network/programming capacity) and i can do the work well and get paid nicely...but i agree with you when you say it doesn't feel like it's making a mark on the world. It really lacks that sense of accomplishment that I think I may feel with another job that had higher impact. But I don't yet know what job that would be. Just like you said, it's not like we're making anything tangible. And it's very sedentary work...which can really make it feel like i've done nothing all day, even though i've done alot.
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So just know you're not alone in how you feel.

Gary superior_bound@hotmail.com
09-30-2003, 04:00 AM
It's a comfort to know that other programmers feel the way I do. I worked as a contractor for Chrysler Financial. From the 24th floor I had an opportunity to watch a vacant lot transformed into several new buildings and a connecting street. I found myself in envy of the people running the heavy equipment and constructing the buildings (except perhaps on cold and rainy days). I've worked for several companies that where purchased, merged, or otherwise outsourced. All those years of developing and maintaining systems and not one line of code is being executed today.
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Working for compensation only is a hollow reward. Perhaps that is why we are paid the higher salaries, to overcome the empty feelings with new toys or the promise of an early retirement.

Anonymous
09-30-2003, 04:00 AM
Thanks for the encouragement.

Big B
09-30-2003, 04:00 AM
To feel more satisfaction, join a good managment consulting company, the good ones produce tangible satisfying results.

Dee Silva dee.silva@barksdale.af.mil
09-30-2003, 04:00 AM
I feel your pain. I have all the lack of job satisfaction without the benefit of good pay! I'm a sys admin in the military. So my &quot;peers&quot; make three times the amount I do, put up with less b.s., and work less hours (usually). Not to mention that unless you choose to work in a third world country, you won't ever have to go there. I'm leaving for Kuwait next month.

Po-Tse Lee jol@ansaldo.com.tw
09-30-2003, 04:00 AM
Have you ever thought that how to cheer up yourself ?

Karl ilionheart@aol.com
09-30-2003, 04:00 AM
If I never gain another benefit from this internet, reading these comments has been enough. I have felt this disatisfaction for yrs as a computer professional. I have done this work, ranging from programming to analysis to BPR and QA and management etc etc. and I have always felt like I've been wasting my life. Even after spending 20 yrs on the job, can we computer types ever go back somewhere and look at our work? No. When you leave the company where you have spent all that time and toil year after year, can you go back at a later time and gaze on your work and be glad you 'did that'? Nope. In fact, chances are the programs and systems worked on so diligently are no longer in service after only a short time, and people in that office would not know or care what you were talking about.
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I often feel desperate and guilty on this issue. Desperate, because the clock is ticking -and guilty, because I am the only one who can actually do something about it, if only I knew what!
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My wife and I (she is also a computer pro, but seems less bothered by this than I) actually started a construction company one yr. We knew absolutely nothing about the business of building (I'm lucky if I can screw in a light-bulb properly), but we love house architecture and designs. So, we poured money and time and effort into it all. It was one of the most wonderful experiences of my life - relative to working. We ended up with a gorgeous 3300sf house with unique earthquake constuction, and quality workmanship and amenities rarely found. Unfortunatly, we 'over built', and had a house too expensive for the community. It would not sell at such a high price, and we had to move in. We lived there, unable to afford proper furniture (or window coverings even), and we closed the business. We needed that first house to sell in order to afford continued building. It felt like the death of a loved one when I closed that business. For a while, it was the best experience to stand and look at that house knowing it would probably still be there for 100 years or more, and so many lives would be positively effected by it, and that it was a useful thing of beauty and inspiration, even to other builders in the area. (We had builders drive over to see what they had heard about, and county inspectors brought by trainees to show the unheard of extent of our earthquake-"proofing".)
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Now what? Well, I for one, am very interested in dialogue with like-minded people. I think there have to be some answers, some ideas, success stories of those who have been through this.
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I am at least resolved to find others who want to talk more about this.

RIDL@AOL.COM
09-30-2003, 04:00 AM
Time for a sabbatical? I have worked as a Civil Engineer for 20 years, currently I am a specialized contractor in the heavy construction industry. I must tell you, your feelings/needs of wanting to build something that you can show your family years from now are understandable. It is a great experience to be part of a group that builds a landmark structure like a dam or a bridge. I have formed bonds with people and been through challenges that you would not believe. You can do the same by using your computer skills. Heavy construction projects are very dependent on satellites, software and computer systems, just pick up a copy of Engineering News Record Magazine and take a look at the positions contractors are advertising. On a large construction project ($25 million or more) you will deal with a wide variety of friendly people, and if you you are like me you will gain a better perspective of yourself by doing so. I think the change will be good for you, it's difficult to grow when you are surrounded by people just like youself. If this is too drastic a change, then start with a hobby where you can express yourself, but try something that forces you to interact with a different group of people. Good luck and don't forget your workboots when you go to the construction site.

Elizabeth
09-30-2003, 04:00 AM
I am afraid it is the name of the game. This type of profession is generally (if I may say so) unthankful. At times, I think we are like ants, going backwards and forwards trying to build a colony and sometimes you are successful other times perhaps not. And we start the process all over again. Perhaps as humans, that is what we do. Repeat, repeat, repeat!

LJ liejian@hotmail.com
09-30-2003, 04:00 AM
I am currently an ebusiness consultant for a major firm. It is not very satisfying and I am hoping to escape this rat race soon with my mind's creativity.

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09-30-2003, 04:00 AM
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bob@collina.net bob@collina.net
09-30-2003, 04:00 AM
I am retarded

water beshining@sohu.com
09-30-2003, 04:00 AM
Good<br />
u have the ability to choose the life<br />
u like.<br />
just follow the orientation of ur heart

rakeshsuni
04-28-2006, 12:08 PM
i want good job any hard work

ToiletFactory
07-31-2006, 03:16 AM
Originally posted by rakeshsuni
i want good job any hard work

well, i need someone to gut my washroom.. you want to apply?