I hate nursing also……nurse

I went to nursing school like alot of others at this site and unfortunately I hate being a nurse too!

I went to school with the idea that I could specialize in anything. So I tried psych because I thought I would enjoy it. I enjoyed my patients however, I was a new nurse and was continuously watched after by another nurse who insulted me at everything and when I asked for help she simply refused. I ended up going through so much stress from it that I quit.

I agree with the person who said on this site that you take tremendous guilt for going through all of the years of schooling from your family everyday. That rings true for me so much that I want to move out of state.

I don’t think that a person who hates nursing lacks compassion and hates life in general. I believe that I am a very loving person who made the wrong choice. I enjoy helping people and I find the nursing profession very cut throat. It is a shame that so many experienced nurses are so inconsiderate to the ones who just graduated. I find that most of them do not want to help new nurses and are constantly stabbing them in the back.

The profession has gone under and it is no wonder that there is such a shortage!

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  1. Well, unlike you I absolutely LOVE being a nurse! I've worked both in acute care hospitals and nursing homes, and the old saying that "nurses eat their young" is true. I've never been able to understand why persons in a profession known for it's caring and compassion can be so rude, mean, and unfeeling to coworkers. I feel that if I were to allow this unprofessional behavior to affect my love of nursing, the rude will have won the battle. I think that, as nurses, we need to remember that we exist for our patients, not to gain approval from our coworkers. As a male nurse, I have to say that, from my experience, female nurses are much more likely to exhibit this nasty behavior directed toward newer inexperienced nurses than male nurses are.
  2. nursing is simply the most degrading insulting occupation that i can imagine. I would certainly prefer to be a waiter at this point. Essentially this is what I am anyway, or a high tech babysitter. As a new nurse I am astounded by the lack of care experienced nurses have for the new grad. Giving report to the next shift is an absolute nightmare. Overweight morons shaking their heads at me...the only pleasure i have is knowing that these losers know absolutely nothing about human potential. they are perfectly happy drinking 4 gallons of dunkin' donuts coffee, taking smoke breaks, eating absolute garbage all day and bitching about their husbands/boyfriends. Where I work the working conditions are just ridiculous. My time with the patients amounts to handing out meds and doing a two minute assessment. I spend the remainder of my time doing documentation on meditech (which is some type of sick joke) and trying to communicate with cardiologists who think they are deities of some sort. The patients are a mixed bag. Some are pleasant genuinely good people and i enjoy meeting and working with them. The others either think they are at a hotel and i am the bus boy/maid/room service or they are the living dead that through the miracle of modern medicine we have kept alive long past their expiration date.<br />
    My advice to anyone considering a nursing career...turn away and run...as fast as you can...never question your decision....and if you are in school, quit now...you will be able to pay off your loans in a profession that doesn't eat then defecate upon its young. I anticipate the day i quit this miserable job and trust me i will never ever go back. I will have great satisfaction knowing that while i'm out enjoying life and all this world has to offer those unhealthy wide- assed precious moments-buying know-nothings will be toiling away in their pathetic little world.
  3. I'm a nurse, BSN, 47yr old male. I went back as an older student. I came from a field totally different from nursing. I too hate the field of nursing. I don't hate the patients I hate the ugly old nurses that bitch all the time. I would love to kick some of those sarcastic bitches right in their god dammed ass.<br />
    They sure did'nt get it at home when they were a kid. I think for me the biggest problem with the field is the overload of patients. It blows my mind<br />
    some of the shit adm/management puts us through. It's no wonder why this field is so fucking nuts and no one is going into it anymore. Oh well, if this helps anyone this is how I manage my life and this nonsence. First of all get a daily work out regimen for yourself and stop falling prey to all those carbo foods. I have never seen so many fat people in the health feild advocating proper health to other patients. YOU WILL FEEL BETTER! Secondly work the 12 hour shifts 3 days a week if you can. This gives you more than two weeks off every month! Some people work all year to get two weeks off! Number three, alot of you want to get out of the field so you try college and thats ok if your goal is to leave the hospital and work for someone else. However, where ever you go there is still more shit you'll have to put up with. Believe me I managed alot of people since in my former trade and all they give you is bullshit! Fourthly what work for me is self employment. I have my oun business that I nurture along which will eventually cut me down to working two twelve hour days. Yes, you'll problably have to co-pay on your hospital insurance a little when you cut back but then you'll only be working 24 hours in the hospital shit hole! If anyone is still reading this and saying I don't know how to do anything out side this hospital yore dead wrong! We live in a service society we all want things done for us be cause were to dammed busy working for other assholes. So think of things like this gardeing for others, house cleaning, window cleaning, home repair, lawn cutting, learn a trade at your comunity college. I personally don't beleive in spending big bucks at these universities unless you really know what your going into and YOU KNOW its going to satisfy your life. Next, these changes take time you have to work at them and they do work. I personaly have worked in the construcion field since 1974 I got fed up with bitter cold winters and 95 plus degree days. So for me a couple time a month I put in heating and cooling for someone and make a couple grand. What ever you do you'llbe surprised how fast you can make couple hundred dollars and not tie up your whole day. I also have a builders license and you would be surprised at the call you get. People don't know how to pick up a screw driver! Another thing to watch out for is other people will be the most negetive bastards you'll ever run into. They'll be negative and the'll have your head spinning. Remember those idiots spin there own nest right around them. Stay focused,be very patient with yourself and your goals. Oh your problaby thinking why would you want to be in nursing if you can make a couple thousand dollars or more? My wife and I don't like to be tied to a business to the point that we can't take off to the bahama's for a few weeks. <br />
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    "Look out around you, and what do you see? The money tree. And all you have to do is pick from it."
  4. I have been a nurse for ten years and it is the most dissatisfying occupation imaginable. I refuse to call nursing a profession. A profession does not punch a time clock. A profession does not dock their employee for 15 minutes for punching out 1 minute early. A profession does not require an employee to wear all white shoes so that they look like a clown in blue scrubs. <br />
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    Nursing is total exploitation. I am earning a lousy $26/hour with ten years experience. It is all the same crap wherever you work and regardless of the specialty area. I work in the ED. About 2 1/2 years ago I went back to get a Masters in Business (MBA) to catapult me out of this crazy occupation. The real crux of the problem is that what we do as nurses in truly important. It does not matter if you're a LPN or RN. You're doing an important job and being pushed to the absolute limits. Doctors sometimes condescend to us. Other nurses backstab us. Were under compensated. Hospitals say they have no money but somehow afford that $15 million Emergency Department expansion or that new Cardiac Catheterization lab. The other night I worked with 5 agency nurses who were earning $42/hour times 12 hours = $2,520.00.... But that's just what the nurses earn. The real issue is that the agency charges the hospital $70.00/hour per nurse. Lets do that math = 5 nurses times 12 hours times $70/hour = $4,200. I do not fault agency nurses. They're not responsible. The hospital management are exercise poor judgment. If the business people at Siemens, Hewlett Packard or Texas Instruments ran their firms like hospitals run, than I am afraid they would be out of business. Its not rocket science. If you significantly raise wages so that their fair and equitable, than nurses will work for your hospital. But who in the heck wants to run around like we do from one problem to another for peanuts for low compensation. Twenty something an hour is ludicrous. <br />
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    I finally went back to get a MBA (Masters in Business) and will be done officially September 2003. I am taking my leave into materials management within a hospital. It's a very important job and we are well educated. But we get paid and treated like were dispensable. I am out of here. <br />

  5. I have been a nurse for ten years and it is the most dissatisfying occupation imaginable. I refuse to call nursing a profession. A profession does not punch a time clock. A profession does not dock their employee for 15 minutes for punching out 1 minute early. A profession does not require an employee to wear all white shoes so that they look like a clown in blue scrubs. <br />
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    Nursing is total exploitation. I am earning a lousy $26/hour with ten years experience. It is all the same crap wherever you work and regardless of the specialty area. I work in the ED. About 2 1/2 years ago I went back to get a Masters in Business (MBA) to catapult me out of this crazy occupation. The real crux of the problem is that what we do as nurses in truly important. It does not matter if you're a LPN or RN. You're doing an important job and being pushed to the absolute limits. Doctors sometimes condescend to us. Other nurses backstab us. Were under compensated. Hospitals say they have no money but somehow afford that $15 million Emergency Department expansion or that new Cardiac Catheterization lab. The other night I worked with 5 agency nurses who were earning $42/hour times 12 hours = $2,520.00.... But that's just what the nurses earn. The real issue is that the agency charges the hospital $70.00/hour per nurse. Lets do that math = 5 nurses times 12 hours times $70/hour = $4,200. I do not fault agency nurses. They're not responsible. The hospital management are exercise poor judgment. If the business people at Siemens, Hewlett Packard or Texas Instruments ran their firms like hospitals run, than I am afraid they would be out of business. Its not rocket science. If you significantly raise wages so that their fair and equitable, than nurses will work for your hospital. But who in the heck wants to run around like we do from one problem to another for peanuts for low compensation. Twenty something an hour is ludicrous. <br />
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    I finally went back to get a MBA (Masters in Business) and will be done officially September 2003. I am taking my leave into materials management within a hospital. It's a very important job and we are well educated. But we get paid and treated like were dispensable. I am out of here. <br />

  6. It seems as though nurses aren't what they seem from many of the comments I've read. The real reason is that in the nursing profession, there are a few backstabbing jerks, who try the ruin the joy in nursing. Don't let them do this to you, stand up for yourselves and talk to them. <br />
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    Any nurses in Toronto, Ontario?<br />
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  7. i'm telling ya all that profession that selling pussy is in extremely shortage. I'm telling you that what could be easier that all you did was spreading eagles and let the client do the work for you. i'm telling ya all nurse bitch that this is very gratifying and satisfying.
  8. I have been a nurse for ten years. I started as an LPN and thought I would be treated better if I became an RN. Big mistake. Treated just as badly, but now I'm responsible for everything and everybody.<br />
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    I agree w/ all the nurses who've posted on this board. Nursing is the most awful, terrible, disappointing, disillusioning mistake a person can do in the name of wanting to "help" others and make a living at it.<br />
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    You are blamed for everything and thanked for nothing. You may work like a dog for years, never take breaks, give it your heart, your soul, your blood, sweat and tears, and ruin your back. In the end, you'll be shit on. You'll end up a bitter old person w/ a bad back.<br />
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    What nursing is SUPPOSED to be and SHOULD be is a wondeful thing. But, what it IS bites the big one. <br />
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    May we all be blessed in our struggle to find a way out of the hell that nursing has become.
  9. GEEEZZZZZ, I HAVE READ THESE STORIES AND I MUST SAY, I WAS ONLINE TO LOOK INTO GOING TO SCHOOL AND BEING A TRAVELING NURSE AFTER TALKING TO A NURSE WHO TRAVELS WHOM SEEMED SO HAPPY WITH HER JOB AND ENCOURAGED ME TO DO SO.<br />
    AFTER READING THESE STORIES, YOU GUYS HAVE REALLY SCARED THE CRAP OUT OF ME. MAYBE THIS IS NOT WHAT I SHOULD DO. I WANTED TO MAKE A WISE CHOICE BECAUSE I AM 41 AND NOT HAPPY AT ALL WITH MY CURRENT JOB. IS ANYONE HAPPY OUT THERE? I CERTAINLY DONT MEAN THIS AS A WISE CRACK...IM VERY SERIOUS. IM AT A AGE WHERE I REALLY CANT AFFORD TO MAKE A MISTAKE. ANY COMMENTS ARE GOING TO BE HELPFUL. THANKS A BUNCH. I HATE TO READ THAT YOU GUYS HAVE GONE THRU THIS. <br />

  10. I have been a nurse for 12 years and the crap we go through now is simply astounding. Many of the foreign physicians are rude to nurses. This is not to generalize that all foreigners are rude. However in their country e.g. India the nurse is lowly pool scum. Some of these foreign doctors exert the same disdain toward us here in the U.S. <br />
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    The money is marginally better. The shortage is worse than ever and the administration "still" cannot seem to figure how to attract and retain a scarce resource e.g. the nurse. Hmmmm! Should we pay more money? Nooooo can't budget it. Oh well lets use the nursing agency that charges the hospital $75/hour. <br />
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    [I do not fault agency nurses at all. Because I am goig that direction now. Yep: found an agency that offers blocked out time in three month stints with benefits. $44/hour weekdays and $46/hour weekends.] <br />
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    I am tired of unsupportive adminstrators and jerk off doctors.<br />
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    If I have to do this job for a living than than its better to make $44-$46/hour and get treated like crap. <br />

  11. I have been a nurse for oever 30 years. I graduated from a diploma program then went on to obtain my BSN. I was a staff nurse in the OR for many years and enjoyed that work tremendously. However, after several years in a management position, the hospital restructured and eliminated many middle-management positions, along with mine! After a few months, I went to work as a psych nurse in a prison. Excellent pay and benefits, but not very challenging. Presently, I am a Director of Nursing in nursing home and I am quite frustrated and depressed! I have worked with many disciplines in my years as a nurse, but nursing home staff are some of the rudest, unprofessional, low lifes I have ever known! Also, the corporation that owns this facility won't spend any money to improve the place--so it looks like a real dump. I told my husband if it ever comes to being placed in an extended care facility, I'll opt to end my life by my own hands! Along with most of the writers on this website, I too feel very dis-illusioned with the nursing profession. I have been searching the internet trying to come up with ideas of some other occupation as far away from nursing as possible!
  12. I am a nurse, too, and just like you, I hate it. I never wanted to be a nurse. Gifted in the field of writing, journalism was my ambition. But my dad didn't think so, and didn't have the money to put me through college, and here I was... With no other choice but nursing infront of me. I hated it in the beginning, but I guess it kinda grew on me. Maybe I was just trying to fir into it and adjust, but I kinda liked it to be honest, only when I was a student nurse that is. I garduated three years ago, and here I am now, hating every minute of it and wondering how on earth I got to like something as harsh and strict as nursing. I don't hate the helping loving part of it, but the hard rules and regulations that govern your every way of action and every thought. I never was cut to follow rules and I grow more aware of that by the minute. It's been three years, and I am still trying to remember a moment or two when I thought: Oh God, I love my job...<br />
    Alas, in three years, I have not one memory of feeling that way.
  13. When I went to nursing school, it was because my children were grown and I wanted someone to take care of. HA! I don;t get to take good care of my patients because i have so many and they're so sick. The biggest disappointment of all is finding out that everybody hates nurses! Patients whine and moan about takig medicine, doctors bitch us out, families question every move we make, and other nurses are spiteful and backbiting. The work is so hard I go home crying every night because I've been on my feet 12 hours without a break.
  14. I can relate to how you feel about the working conditions. I work for the NHS in the UK and the working conditions are appaling. We are currently located at a site which by rights should be condemned. The roof had to be re-done as it was leaking on every ward. There is asbestos in all the ceilings. I often work shifts without a break. I remember being a junior nurse, working 14 hours straight without a break, and a soon as I left the shift I burst into tears with mental exhaustion. The trouble is the public see the problems the NHS is experiencing, but when they come into hospital, they expect a completely different NHS. All we seem to get is complaint after complaint, and the people who do thank us are encouraged to campain to the government about making improvements but they never do. What I would like to see is improvemnets made on the clinical environment. A lot more money would be nice as well!
  15. I can relate to every story I've read! When I started school I didn't know what I wanted to do, but I knew I liked anything medical.So I got a degree in Medical Lab, microbiology, and RT. Then I went to Nursing School, got pretty good grades and started to work. At first it was great, but then something happened.....the 12hr shifts, bitching co-workers,..damn family members, snotty nose pts(they think they should get there PRN pain meds even if they don't need them). 4 months ago I started a new nursing job, which means I had to be on probation for 3months. Well, they waited 2 weeks before it was over to tell me I was not suited for that floor....I didn't know enough for them.So of to another floor I go just to find out that my probation has to start all over again. Worst thing about it was the pay cut, it's nights and the floor I started on was baylor nights. I get no feedback about how I'm doing, I get sick driving to work, and I don't think the other nurses like me, but I try to get along with everyone I meet.<br />
    I'ts sad, but I have no feeling of accomplishment, and I am not happy. What makes I worse for me right now is I need this shitty job, but I won't know untill March if they'll keep me.But in the meantime I'll be looking foe another Job..What I do know is that I will not be in the shitty profession for 5 years, I had rather be dead first. It's not enough money, the pts are nasty and they smell, and I really HATE THEM, as for some of them....I wish they would fall off the face of the earth.....There has to be a better way to make a living!!!!...there just has to be
  16. I left a GREAT college two years ago because I wanted to be a nurse and that school did not offer a degree in nursing. Now, I am in the Nursing program and I think that I am starting to regret that decision. I like the science behind the nursing, but I hate all of the nasty stuff that I have to do. I don't like the patients - they smell bad and can't do hardly anything for themselves. I am about ready to cry because I hate this so much but I am already too far in to get out! GRRRR....
  17. I too hate my job in nursing. At this point, it's the money that keeps me in this career. I feel like I have no other option. I want out!!!
  18. Nursing is where the heart is! Bullshit!!! Pardon my language if I offend anyone. There is just so much crap involved in nursing that it isn't even funny. The area where I am at are racist toward anyone who is not Filipino (what sucks is I'm Filipino myself) and they seem to target non-Filipino CNAs. I am the only one who seems to notice this and I don't like it one bit. CNAs are our third eyes and they have one f*&^kin' tough job. Cleaning piss, shit, vomit, you name it they clean it and they get treated like crap. Come on people; just because we are nurses that doesn't mean we treat our CNAs like crap. As a Filipino-American male nurse, I am absolutely ashamed in the way my own freakin' race treats non-filipino CNAs. Being yelled at by family, doctors, patients, administration, etc. all comes along with this field. That is why I can't wait to leave. I already told some of my coworkers that I will depart at anytime because I feel that, if I were to continue with nursing, I will die. There were times I was depressed about my (parent's) career choice to the brink of having suicidal thoughts. Luckily, I have a supportive girlfriend (a nurse, by the way) and a very great intern therapist so I could have a shoulder to cry on. Nursing has gotten to the point in my life where I just want only the money. Now I now why there is a nursing shortage.
  19. I have been working in a hospital for 5 years now and I am getting ready to graduate in May from nursing school. I hate it with a passion. Its nothing but filled with tons of busy work-so much that I almost never have time to learn whats really important like how to take care of people. So much of it is so meaningless. I mean I really am not learning what I need to. -Thanks for letting me vent to people who understand.
  20. Snoopy -- hang in there! You'll develop a very thick skin soon enough. You don't have to stay working in facilities -- there are so many different kind of jobs. I hated nursing with a passion for my entire first five years in it. The difference? Now I care about giving quality care and about my paycheck. I don't care what my coworkers think, unless they happen to also be friends. I know management is usually full of you know what, so I don't invest any emotional energy there either, and I know certain patients and families will always want more than what I can provide, so their opinion is irrelevant as well. "Nurse" just isn't my self image. It's just a job, I do it well, and make good dough. And I enjoy working with Filipinos too. (Talk about eating well!) Suggestion: I'd recommend keeping your expenses down for a while after graduation so that can cut back to three 12's a week every so often. Four days off a week is the best incentive program I've ever seen!
  21. I hope someday I can feel the same way about nursing as "ScottnIV". However, as an ER nurse of going on 7 years, I seem to lean toward the other comments. I also took the "practical" route of a career, throwing away the graphic artist career I had wanted for myself, dismissing it as impractical. "You can always get a job if you're a nurse" , so if you want to change careers, no problem! Not so. You get locked into the trap of debt, payments, and most people form relationships that lock them into staying in one area. The only advice I can offer is: if you are picking this career based on sheer practicality, be prepared to deal with a world of shit. Being bullied by administrators (mandatory overime, generally being treated like cattle, lousy pay considering the amount of responsibility, and the endless additions of paperwork by JCHAO),patients (abusive drunks, drug seekers, manipulative people of all sorts and all of their scummy friends and pain in the ass family members, and pushy, frequent flier public aid leeches)and lazy, no account co workers who can't be fired due to the tremendous shortage of qualified RN's. I used to marvel at the number of nurses I saw that had obvious emotional problems and terrible family lives. Now having personally lived it, I realize that is directly related to working in the modern hospital setting. The good nurses are herded in with the mediocre and go unrewarded. There is no honor in this job. There is no pride. It went out with the hats.
  22. Bedpan3 -- There's nothing more miserable that an artist who gave up their dream. (Was a music major, myself.) Hope you get back to it, even if only on the side.
  23. I despise being a nurse. I can't believe I worked so hard to get my BSN, graduated Cum Laude, for this shit career!!! I knew I should have been a teacher. Teaching is my true passion but I let others convince me that I shouldnt pursue this dream (poor pay, etc.) Now I feel so trapped. Everyday I feel sick to my stomach. God help me, I don't know what to do. I am so miserable!
  24. I have been a nurse since 1978-I had no<br />
    ideal until I came across this site that<br />
    people hated nursing much as me! I can't <br />
    even put in words how much! I've notice<br />
    no one mention how EVIL doctors are to<br />
    nurses. I had a doctor throw a chair at<br />
    me because a 10am med. wasn't given. I<br />
    worked 3-11 and had no ideal it wasn't<br />
    given. People that have never worked in<br />
    this field have no ideal of the abuse you put up with..other nurses, especially family memembers, and mostly<br />
    money hungry doctors. Gosh I feel<br />
    better... Rummer
  25. Nursing stinks!
  26. I think you guys are a really pathetic bunch. Rather than standing up for yourselves & doing what you really want, you continue working in a field in which very sick people rely on your compassion. You take out your frustrations on them. Maybe not overtly, but don't you think they can feel it??? Shame on you!! <br />
    All I can say is grow up & take responsibility for yourselves. Don't blame the nursing profession. They are many nurses who love their jobs & are dedicated to their profession. You are a the reason why people "hate" nurses. What you put out is exactly what you will get back. If you hate it, leave the profession. Period. Stop bitching about it & start acting toward making changes in your life. It isn't your client's fault (or the profession's fault) that you aren't happy, that you did what your parents wanted you to do, that you made a mistake. Move on & get over it already!
  27. Amen to everybody but madricka. Madricka -- you can't even spell and have poor grammar. People who stay and excel with nursing are stupid. They don't know that they're getting sh*t on, pissed on, vomited on -- literally and metaphorically. Thus, they're still a nurse. These people in this board are grown up. Tey know how to vent their frustation in a safe fashion. They know that nursing is not for them and are trying to get out. Unlike you madricka. Screw nursing and nurses.
  28. Hey mandrika or whatever your name is. I don't know what fairytale land you live in but we are just expressing how we feel as nurses. We have lives to and the disgust we feel for nursing we don't take it out on our patients. If you have a problem with us expressing the way we feel then you can go to hell!!!!! nursing isn't all glamorous and by expressing ourselves serves as therapy. we take care of people but we need to take care of ourselves to. I'll be waiting for your response. Bring it on!!!!!
  29. EBGAMER--thats the way to do it!! shovel out more of the same stuff that you say you hate.-----Dumb ass. you need to calm down before you blow a coronary! youre not too bright, are you?
  30. EBGAMER--thats the way to do it!! shovel out more of the same stuff that you say you hate.-----Dumb ass. you need to calm down before you blow a coronary! youre not too bright, are you?
  31. EBGAMER--thats the way to do it!! shovel out more of the same stuff that you say you hate.-----Dumb ass. you need to calm down before you blow a coronary! youre not too bright, are you?
  32. Hey Bob! What is your problem dude!!! We have a right to express ourselves about how we feel in nursing. If you have a problem with that well F@#$% you bastard!!!
  33. My job is nursing and I hate it so much, it can literally make me ill. I have no pity for the nursing shortage and every time I hear how short of nurses that places are, I laugh. Because the truth is, there are plenty of nurses. They are all in real estate, at home, waitressing, or in other careers. Nursing administration learns nothing over the years. You are expected to be compassionate, but you personally receive none. The work is backbreaking, you stand on your feet endless hours, what is expected is impossible, and there is no support. The rules are ridiculous and overwhelming and oftentimes threatening. I did it because it was all I knew. Nursing runs in my family like insanity. My great aunt probably had the same complaints as my daughter-in-law, an RNBSN-who among other things has been told to shut her mouth and do as she was told. She quit that job. I am at a point where even the money won't help--I am ready to scrub floors for a living--anything but nursing.
  34. high roller? sounds more like a low-life. get a grip on reality you dumb shit. you said we all have the right to say what we want, but as soon as someone (me) says something you dont like, you cry and moan like the little bitch you are. you are the definition of loser.-----how ya like them apples!
  35. The money is alright, but this job is all about stress. I HATE BEING A NURSE. I HATE BEING A MALE NURSE. Fng B's, no respect, back stabbing, snack-food-eatin', wide-assed, co-dependent, anti-depressant takin' women who all have relationship problems.<br />
    I'm going back to graphic design. Perhaps what the profession needs is more testosterone...
  36. Hi.<br />
    I am in the UK. I have always wanted to be a nurse. My kids are grown up I am 40 and I have just been to the Uni today to enrol for Nursing 3 yr course. I have come home, looking on the internet for info. The people at the uni spoke about nursing with a passion, and I came home fired up and ready to go. After looking at this listing, I feel like sticking to administration! I like doing what I am doing administration with the homeless so sort of feel I am contributing something but always wanted to be a nurse - this has certainly given me something to think about. Also if you are so unsettled you could retrain - in admin ;-)<br />
    Kind regards to you all Carrie
  37. I'm really happy that there are sooo many out there who share my sentiments about nursing..I was a wide-eyed 18 year old who thought that nursing was the best job I could ever had (yeah right*roll eyes*)It was a..ahem..as they say..noble profession..but how wrong I was! Once I started nursing school, I hated THIS DAMNED carrer from day one! The problem is..in my country..one literally was 'forced' to continue with the training and later on the job itself because we (the nurses) have to sign a stupid contract that binds us for 5 whole years with the hospitals (failing which we have to compensate the hospitals with a large amount of money)! Anyway..I finished 5 years of sheer agony and now I'm no longer in nursing. NO don't congrtaulate me just yet! I'm now without a job (I'd do anything to get a job as a customer service officer). I tried for a career change but the job applications I sent out received no response! I'm soooo SAD right now..soooo DEPRESSED! AM I destined to be stuck in this stinking 'profession' which by the way is one of the lowest paid job in my country???????????? I hate my life and NURSING!
  38. I have been an RN for more than 20 years. The stress, misery and abuse I suffered at the hands of administration, physcians and fellow nurses are a crime against humanity.<br />
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    Nursing is the only profession that I can think of where the more education, experience and responsibility that you take on actually results in your being paid less than the simple staff nurse makes for putting in his/her normal shift.<br />
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    I used to be so depressed and emotionally exhausted that I would actually fantize that some car would run a red light and smash into my car so that I could go to the hospital as a patient and NOT have to work and expose myself to the stress of the unit that night. Is this not the most pathetic thing that you have ever heard?<br />
    <br />
    Ah, yes. As a nurse, you are told by administration that you are a "professional" and as such, they expect you to complete professional levels of education, hold pofessional licences, complete professional continuing education each year, adhere to professional standards, assume professional responsibilities and represent your facility/employer as a professional. <br />
    <br />
    Fine and dandy; how about recieving some of the pay and perks of being a "professional"?? No, that is a different story. When you try to stand up for yourself and for your future as a professional, you have no power and no voice. Administration immediately slaps you down and informs you that you are an hourly employee and if you do not like what is handed to you, your job is threatened and you are told that you can "hit the road". <br />
    <br />
    Does this sound like being a true professional? Hell no!! A nurse is only a "professional" as long as it fits the agenda of the doctors and the administrators.<br />
    <br />
    I used to become so depressed about being a nurse. Like many other nurses, I hated it beyond the meaning of the word. I remember thumbing through the yellow pages trying desperately to identify some job, ANY job wherein I could use my nursing education, skills and knowledge in some profession OTHER than actual nursing.<br />
    <br />
    I searched for more than 10 years to find that niche and finally, I am not even really sure how, I actually DID find something that I thought would get me out of the hospital and into a normal, healthy life.<br />
    <br />
    At first, I tried to calculate how little I could get by on. Like all other nurses, I had been trained and brainwashed into believing that I had to be an employee to find work. I intially had to get past that mentality and, I admit, it was a tough process for me.<br />
    <br />
    I figured that if I could only make $500 per week, I could eke out a life for myself. I began my new business and used my nursing skills and knowledge every day and with every client.<br />
    <br />
    I started out with virtually NO recognition and nobody knew me or my service. I found out immediately that there really WAS a demand for what I had to offer. The really wierd thing was that NO other nurse was offering my service!! The telephone calls began to flood in. <br />
    <br />
    My first year, I was shocked that I actually matched what I had made as a nurse working in a hospital with more than 20 years of experience. My secound year, I made $75,000. I am now headed into the beginning of my forth year and believe it or not, I am actually making what the US Dept of Labor lists as the average income of a Internal Medicine and OB/GYN doctor!!<br />
    <br />
    For the first time in my miserable career as a nurse, I actually FEEL like a professional and EARN professional pay. You have no idea how strange a feeling it is when I meet up with many of the docs that I once worked with and secrtly know that I make as much, if not more, money per year than they do.<br />
    <br />
    I am in the process of writing a book on my experiences. My book will give other nurses a step by step guide on how to start their own business and begin a wonderful new life for themselves and their families. A life rich with opportunity that will allow them to still work as a nurse but without all the emotional and physical pathology than comes with the traditional "pigeon hole" positions designed for nurses by doctors and hospital administrators to line their own pockets and finance their own rich lifestyles.<br />
    <br />
    My book will not be finished for a few months but anybody interested in hearing about it when it is completed may email me.<br />
    <br />
    I wish each of my fellow nurses the opportunity to have a quality of life and not have to start over with years of education and retraining to find it. Please do not dispair, the answers truly are out there, if you just know where to look.
  39. Whoops, guess it would help if I left my email address. twostepr6@aol.com
  40. i'm a second year nurse and truly hate this profession.
  41. i knew i hated this job right before i graduated for nursing school, but it was already too late. i went through too much stress, crying, and bullshit from my teachers to drop out. plus my family wouldn't allow it. hey i had hungry mouths to feed. my first year of nursing was pure horror. i could never relate to any of the nurses, still can't. i was always extremely younger 22. the older nurses seem to hate me, and never wanted to help. the experienced nurses 10+ years i say like to eat the young(fresh nurses) alive. i was even threatened and stalked, and laughed at by an older nurse, cause i smiled too much. the don of the facility didnt give a shit, all she wanted was a body, anybody at work. no matter if we killed each other. now im in my second year. i still hate nursing, though i can deal with those miserable,pathetic, asshole, older nurses better.i make almost 20 an hour. so sometimes the cna's hate me, because im younger than them, making way more money than them. but hey im living with this lousy mistake i made. i no longer let it stress me out, like my first year, cause i know i want be in this profession too long. i'm going back to school to become a teacher. my true love, what i should have done in the first place. nursing sucks ass!
  42. THE NURSING JOB ITSELF ISN'T SO BAD IT'S ONCE AGAIN I SAY : THE CROCHETY OLD LADIES THAT CHASE EVERYONE AWAY. DON'T GET ME WRONG - I COULDN'T BE HAPPIER THAT AFTER 5 YEARS OF SCHOOL I GET TO CLEAN TOILETS, WIPE BUTTS, KISS UP TO IGNORANT PEOPLE,GO WITHOUT LUNCH, WORK 16 HOURS SHIFTS, HOLIDAYS AND WEEKENDS, GET PUKED ON, SPIT ON, SHIT ON, HIT, KICKED, CALLED NAMES. NO, I ACTUALLY CAN DEAL WITH ALL THAT FOR THE PAY. WHAT I CAN'T DEAL WITH IS THE FACT THAT AFTER YOU COMPLETE ALL OF THE ABOVE YOU ARE ESSENTIALLY THE LAMB AMONG WOLVES. YOUR CO WORKERS, THE PEOPLE WHO SHOULD KNOW MORE THAN ANYONE HOW HARD IT IS, CONSTANTLY STAB YOU IN THE BACK. THESE OLD WOMEN HAVE EARNED THEIR REPUTATION. THEY HONESTLY SEE THEMSELVES AS GODDESSES WHO CAN DO NO WRONG. THEIR HEADS ARE THE CENTER OF THEIR UNIVERSE IN WHICH ALL ELSE REVOLVES. THEY CAN BE HORRIBLY SHALLOW PEOPLE THAT CAN ONLY MAKE THEMSELVES FEEL SUPERIOR BY PUTTING OTHERS DOWN. BEING FAIRLY NEW I DON'T SEE IT AS MY PLACE TO TELL THEM OFF SO THEY GO ON AND ON. THIS IS A HUGE REASON FOR THE NURSING SHORTAGE. MALE NURSES WORK PRIMARILY IN ER. THERE IS NEVER A SHORTAGE OF PEOPLE WILLING TO TRANSFER THERE.
  43. I am a traveling ER nurse. Unlike some I actually love "nursing." It is the bullcrap politics, HMO's, and such that I can't stand. I agree that people really do hate nurses. We have to be short with our patients because we have 5-6 other patients that we look after. I was disappointed to find that the hospital I left when I became a traveler is no different then any other in the nation. Everyone is short staffed. Everyone is under paid. And no one is appreciated for the hard work they do. Since when did my Bachlor's degree (and for some nurses... Master's) mean that I should earn $20,000 less a year then the snot-nose-suit in the frount office who also has a bachlor's degree. Oh Yeah, I forgot... their job is stressful! When was the last time they tried to save a kid from dying or console a little old lady whose husband of 60 years just died. Yep, don't think I have seen that one in a while. But you know they do have meetings to attend and decisions to make... like "we're sorry no raises this year." Yet the CEO's pay increases by $300,000 in two years? Hell I would settle for 1/3000 of that! Just food for thought... Thanks for the vent!
  44. I am so happy that I found this website! I thought that I was the only person out there that had so many awful thoughts about the nursing profession. I absolutley hate it! I am on the verge of tears sometimes on my way to work. I have been working as an RN for almost a year now and I am seriously considering going into selling either pharmaceuticals or real estate. the thing that sucks is that I have over $60,000 in student loans for this fucked up degree. Hopefully the least it will do is help me get my foot in the door to do something else. I would love to have just a normal nine to five, Monday through Friday job. Fuck this having to kiss ass to demanding patients, family members, and MD's. It seems that everyone thinks nursing is so satisfying. Yeah right! Try degrading instead! What is so satisfying about being yelled at and stressed? I saw a commercial for a truck driving school on TV the other day and that even seemed more appealing than my job. What's up with that? Anyways, I feel a lot better that I was able to vent. I always seem to have to walk on eggshells when people ask me how I like my job because I would feel like the biggest heartless bitch ever, but I'm glad to know I am not the only one who feels this way. Happy job hunting/career moving to you all!
  45. I have been a registered nurse for four years now. Every time I have to go to work, I just want to cry. Once I get to work, it's not so bad. I work in the NICU and I love the babies. But there is just no job satisfaction. I have not even seen my manager for a couple of months, I get no feedback on how I'm doing, a lot of the nurses are rude, a lot of the parents are ungreatful, and I know deep down that there is something better for me out there. The stress is just too much for me right now. Just the other day, a doctor gave me an order for 10 times too much morphine for a 22wk gestation baby. If I had not caught that mistake, I could have killed the poor baby. I don't get paid enough to find dr's life-threatening mistakes. How do I get out of this? Thanks for listening.
  46. I WOULD LIKE TO STAY WORKING AS A NURSE. I GRADUATED IN 1998 AND HAVE NOT HAD MUCH LUCK WITH IT. AFTER TRYING QUITE A FEW POSITIONS, HOSPITAL, NURSING HOMES, CLINIC...I JUST GAVE UP. THE MORE I TRIED TO WORK, THE MORE NERVOUS AND UNSURE MY DECISION TO RETURN BECAME. JUST AS ALL OF YOU I MET WITH SEASONED NURSES WITH NO COMPASSION FOR THE NEW NURSE. MY NURSING SCHOOL AND THE CLINICAL WHICH CONSISTED OF HAVING NO MORE THAN "2" PATIENTS, WHOSE CARE WAS SHARED WITH ANOTHER STUDENT WAS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO THE "HELL" THAT SO MANY OF US CONSIGNED OURSELVES TO IN THE NAME OF "WANTING TO HELP"<br />
    <br />
    I AM SORRY THAT I WASTED MY TIME. I LEFT A JOB THAT I CAN NO LONGER RETURN TO, I LIVE IN NEW YORK CITY WHICH HAS THE WORST JOB SHORTAGE IN THE CENTURY. THERE ARE HUNDREDS AND THOUSANDS OF RESUMES FOR SIMPLE CLERICAL JOBS, AND I CANNOT THINK OF RETURNING TO NURSING, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THE NURSING FIELD WILL NOT CHANGE WITHOUT STATE LEGISLATION ON LIMITING THE AMOUNT OF PATIENTS A NURSE CAN CARE FOR ON A SHIFT/AND STREAMLINING PAPERWORK TO PAPERLESS DOCUMENTATION (COMPUTER INPUT ONLY) - I KNOW THE STATE OF NEW JERSEY IS AS WE SPEAK WORKING ON THIS, WILL NEW YORK FOLLOW SUIT....I HOPE SO. THANKS FOR THIS SITE, I DID NOT KNOW THAT THERE WERE SO MANY OF US OUT THERE---SEASONED AND NEWLY GRADUATED....LIKE MANY OF YOU I DID NOT WANT TO DISAPPOINT MY FAMILY AND I DID NOT LIKE FEELING LIKE A FAILURE. I REALLY GOT DEPRESSED, BUT I REALIZE THAT A MOVING TARGET IS HARD TO HIT!!!<br />
    THANKS FOR LETTING ME VENT.
  47. i became a nurse in 1983. it,s been twenty years of evil coworkers, bad administration, lousy shifts, and rude ego inflated doctors. i now work in an inner city health center. i hate this job almost as much as i hated my hospital jobs. the reason i stay is that this job is a monday through friday deal. no weekends, no holidays, no mandatory overtime. i work with a particularly disturbing docter. this pediatrician[and i use that term loosly] is not board certified and never will be. her decision making is scary. i have seen her administer medication when it was not nessesary to very young children. i beleive she is either bipolar, or has a borderline personality. i have spoken to my nurse manager and get no support beyond someone to vent to. i need my job. i can,t afford to stay home and i need the health benefits. so insane docters, bitchy rn's, rude parents and children, and i'm still hanging in there. i can't even begin to think about the risks we nurses take everyday. from hepatitis b, aids, tb, strep, staph, and god only knows what else. please if you are thinking about a career in nursing run. run as fast as you can to a job that has normal hours and will not expose you to life threatening diseases!
  48. i'm telling ya all that profession that selling pussy is in extremely shortage. I'm telling you that what could be easier that all you did was spreading eagles and let the client do the work for you. i'm telling ya all nurse bitch that this is very gratifying and satisfying.
  49. nursing is simply the most degrading insulting occupation that i can imagine. I would certainly prefer to be a waiter at this point. Essentially this is what I am anyway, or a high tech babysitter. As a new nurse I am astounded by the lack of care experienced nurses have for the new grad. Giving report to the next shift is an absolute nightmare. Overweight morons shaking their heads at me...the only pleasure i have is knowing that these losers know absolutely nothing about human potential. they are perfectly happy drinking 4 gallons of dunkin' donuts coffee, taking smoke breaks, eating absolute garbage all day and bitching about their husbands/boyfriends. Where I work the working conditions are just ridiculous. My time with the patients amounts to handing out meds and doing a two minute assessment. I spend the remainder of my time doing documentation on meditech (which is some type of sick joke) and trying to communicate with cardiologists who think they are deities of some sort. The patients are a mixed bag. Some are pleasant genuinely good people and i enjoy meeting and working with them. The others either think they are at a hotel and i am the bus boy/maid/room service or they are the living dead that through the miracle of modern medicine we have kept alive long past their expiration date.<br />
    My advice to anyone considering a nursing career...turn away and run...as fast as you can...never question your decision....and if you are in school, quit now...you will be able to pay off your loans in a profession that doesn't eat then defecate upon its young. I anticipate the day i quit this miserable job and trust me i will never ever go back. I will have great satisfaction knowing that while i'm out enjoying life and all this world has to offer those unhealthy wide- assed precious moments-buying know-nothings will be toiling away in their pathetic little world.
  50. It really is no wonder there is a nursing shortage. I was a new grad who was treated worse than the dirt on the ground. I almost quit the profession all together. Now I can't believe it but I really like where I work. Same department, different medical center and I love it. Guess it just depends on where you work. Now I'm glad I didn't quit. I still have the same good attitude and care about my patients the way I should. What makes me like where I am now is the people I work with. They are so nice. Heads up New Grads - DON'T EVER ACCEPT A GN POSITION AT UCLA MEDICAL CENTER IN LOS ANGELES, CA!! The people there are not nice at all and they treat new grads very badly.
  51. I just love nurses. When I get sick I try to be a good, cooperative patient. I have never been treated unkind by a nurse. However, I was in the hospital once and witnessed my doctor jump all over this nurse because she didn't know why the milk to breastfeed my child hadn't come down.<br />
    <br />
    I have also witnessed one nurse jump all over another one for an improperly done IV. My hand swelled to twice its size but dang! The swelling went down, it's all good. <br />
    <br />
    Chastizing needs to be done in private.
  52. As the son of a nurse who's nearing retirement, I just want to thank all of you who are in the field. You're a wonderful bunch of people. I hear all the horror stories concerning everything I've read here and more. It's a sad commentary on our society that the general public doesn't appreciate an iota of just what you all have to put up with in your jobs. So, from this son of a nurse, I wish to just say thanks to all of you for what you do put up with. I know that doesn't mean much, but I just wanted to say THANKS!

    Son of Nurse
  53. Well I feel the same why folks. The true reason I got into nursing was that I was sick to death of making minimum wage. School was close. Thought I wanted to know about the body so I picked nursing. What a stupid choice. But at least the money is o.k. That is the only, I say ONLY reason i'm still doing it. I work in a large nursing home in Ontario and tobe a Registered Nurse has turned into a paper work job. Little to no hands on. I work on ensuring I keep current policies and proceedures in place. Attempt to keep the Ministery from closing us down and help jack up the residents care level scores so the Ministery will keep enough funding coming to us so we have enough workers to at least wipe our Alzheimers patients asses.
    We have idiot Ministery classifiers that come in and expect us to have everything up to their igotisical standards. I then think we can do better. Maybe if the classifiers used their F'n heads and see we have six H.C.A.'S to 78 residents, duh maybe thats why these people don't get their assess wiped, repositioned, develop pressure sores.
    Anyway, can you see why I hate this job. It's about paper work and money not caring. [[/b]
  54. I can't believe I busted my butt so hard in school to come out only to realize the reality of nursing and how much it stinks. I'm so sad. I personally don't think the money is all that great and I supposedly live in a state (New York) where nurse are high paid. Yeah right, I left the ICU after realizing whether I'm a great nurse or a shit nurse I'm compensated just like every other nurse. And sadly enough there are nurses out there that "eat their young" on a daily basis. I tried to be a great nurse and I always gave my patients the best care I could but like everyone that is a nurse knows, you eventually loose to "institutional politics". I can't tell you how many times I had to assist a doctor prematurely extubating a patient and pulling all their lines just to open up a damn bed, only to hear that they coded and died on the floor. What the hell is going on. On top of that you watch lies be told to family members as their loved ones lay there and rot. Our unit literally grew out magets on a patient that needed some dignity 9 months earlier. And the doctor's...forget about it, bust your ass for 12 hours and get treated like crap. I've never expected a daily pat on the back...but at least treat me with respect! Yep nursing stinks and our voices continue to be silented by a B.S. beauracracy of B.S. artists that don't get it until their on the very own death beds. Nursing is a losing battle to me!!!
  55. I'm glad i found this site because I was always wondering if anyone else out there had the same emotions that i did. For the most part, nursing isn't a great job and every shift I find myself saying"I quit! " Of course I stay in it though. Where else can I make the money that I make now at the young age of 24. I've been a nurse now for 1 and a half years and the first year of my career was extremely tough.

    ATTENTION NEW GRADS!!! DON'T EVER ACCEPT A NEW GRAD POSITION AT UCLA MEDICAL CENTER IN LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA!

    They treat New grads like dog poop. I put up with them for a year too long. Left and things are a bit easier now, but not great either. I went into this field with a very good attitude, willingness to learn, never had the no it all attitude and still don't, and had overall compassion for my patients. LOL, not so much anymore. Due to the lack of appreciation from the patients, their families, and many of my co-workers who by the way are out of shape, fat peaces of lard.........I grew a tough shield around myself and now just go to work and think about the crazy money I will be making a year from now when i start travel nursing. Might at well take advantage of being an Rn and use it for traveling and making lots of money. As of right now, the job is just a job and I like some of the people I work with and hate others. It took me a long time to grow the thick skin that i have but I treat everyone with respect and am the same nice person I always was. I just don't really care for the politics, and the caddyness which i find to be mostly a women thing. Not all women in this field are that way but probably 50% of them are. Solution: Hire more men in this field and the shortage of nurses will decrease. Anyway, that's my take on things.
  56. Hi! I'm a nursing student at one of the prestigious school here in the philippines (St. Luke's CN), already in my sophomore year. I didn't wanna take up this course as I'm not really interested to eat. But my parents and as well as my relatives think that I'm better off if I take up nursing... One thing only comes to their mind, earning big bucks once I've graduated.

    I just cant imagine myself working in the hospital for the rest of my life. I always thought and dreamt of working in an office, where you just sit in front of the computer all day long. Computer has been always my first love. But anyway, being the obedient child as I am, I have to obey my parents. Maybe I'll just fulfill whatever they want me to be and afterwards do whatever I want.

    But nursing aint that all bad. I'm actually getting into it already except that Anatomy's really a pain in the neck! Ugh! I dont even know if i'll pass that subject. that's all for now!
  57. Hi! I'm a nursing student at one of the prestigious school here in the philippines (St. Luke's CN), already in my sophomore year. I didn't wanna take up this course as I'm not really interested to it. But my parents and my relatives as well think that I'm better off if I take up nursing... One thing only comes to their mind, earning big bucks once I've graduated.

    I just cant imagine myself working in the hospital for the rest of my life. I always thought and dreamt of working in an office, where you just sit in front of the computer all day long. Computer has always been my first love. But anyway, being the obedient child I am, I have to obey my parents. Maybe I'll just fulfill whatever they want me to be and afterwards do whatever I want.

    But nursing aint that all bad. I'm actually getting into it already except that Anatomy's really a pain in the neck! Ugh! I dont even know if i'll pass that subject. that's all for now!
  58. I feel better now that I know that I am not alone. Nurses are very abuse by physicians, patients, family members, and other nurses too. I am thinking on leaving nursing, yes the money is good sometimes, but you really work for it. No to mention always being thinking on loosing the license, and the diseases that one come in contact with every day. Is very hard on the body, and you need to develop a very strong stomach just to survive every day. I had worked in different hospitals, and different units, and had not find much difference.
  59. I am a Human Resource Manager--I was laid off from my job in Feb 03 and have been going to school taking pre-reqs to go into Nursing School--I already have an MS in Industrial Psych--After looking on this board makes me glad that I am not going to pursue Nursing anymore--I got tired of all the Bullshit the Schools offering Accelerated BSN programs put me through--They are fucking disorganized. I may as well go back to my old Career because it sounds a whole hell of a lot better than Nursing. Besides i am starting to get interviews and hopfully will land a job soon.

    Good luck--I know now that Nursing is a Shitty Occupation!!!
  60. I hate nursing!!! I go to work every day with a fresh attitude and come home feeling so frustrated and beaten down. I went to school for 5 years, won scholarships and thought I was bettering myself. The "profession" is a joke. There is no way to contend with the gossiping, the back stabbing and all the nonsense that goes on. You are not allowed to be a person, but are expected to be a robot, a non-entity. Placed in impossible situations without control, we are expected to remain silent and just deal with it all. Nurses are just bodies controlled by doctors and administration who lie and disregard their needs, feelings, and opinions of everyone beneath them. I am seeking another realm of life. I tell my children, "Be anything you want to be, but Do Not be a nurse." Surely prostitutes are given more respect.
  61. NURSING LIKE OTHER JOBS HAS ITS HIGHS AND LOWS. FIRST OF ALL THANKS FOR THIS SITE FOR ALLOWING NURSES AND NON-NURSES TO VENT THEIR FRUSTRATION ABOUT THIS PROFESSION. I STUDIED IN A CATHOLIC UNIVERSITY AND LIKE MOST OF THE NURSES THAT POSTED HERE, I HAD SO MANY EXPERIENCES THAT'S ENOUGH TO MAKE ME QUIT. I WAS BLESSED WITH VERY GOOD TEACHERS WHO NEVER, AT ANY MOMENT GAVE US AN IDEA THAT NURSING IS A GLAMOUROUS PROFESSION. WE WERE TOLD BY OUR PROFESSOR IN FOUNDATIONS OF NURSING( THE FIRST NURSING SUBJECT OFFERED AFTER THE BASIC COURSES FOR A SCIENCE DEGREE) THAT NURSING WASN'T JUST A PROFESSION, IT WAS A VOCATION. SHE DESCRIBED IT TO US AS LIKE BEING A NUN. MY CLASSMATES WHO FELT THAT THEY COULDN'T KEEP UP TO THAT DESCRIPTION, DROPPED OUT AND WENT TO DIFFERENT COLLEGES. ONE OF THEM WENT INTO JOURNALISM AND YES SHE LIKED IT MORE, AND THOSE OF US WHO STAYED STILL PRACTICES NURSING AFTER 20 YEARS. READING ALL THE ENTRIES HERE MADE ME UNDERSTAND MORE WHY SOME NURSES ARE BITCHY THAN OTHERS OR WHY SOME OF THEM SEEM TO BE ANGRIER THAN OTHERS. IT WAS SO OBVIOUS THAT EVERYONE WERE ALL OVERWHELMED BY THE PATIENT-NURSE RATIO BUT THERE WERE NURSES THAT CAN BE SEEN SMILING AND NOT ONLY BECAUSE THEY HAVE BETTER ASSIGNMENT BUT BECAUSE THEY TRY TO USE HUMOR IN THE MIDST OF FRUSTRATIONS AND ENDLESS DEMANDS OF PATIENTS. I HAVE READ A POST THAT SHE GRADUATED CUM LAUDE BUT WHAT SHE REALLY WANTED WAS TO BE A TEACHER. EXPLORE YOUR OPTIONS, THERE ARE LOTS OF COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES THAT NEEDS PROFESSORS AND CLINICAL INSTRUCTORS. IF YOU LOVE TO TEACH, YOU DON'T NEED TO LOOK TOO FAR. JUST BE CAREFUL NOT TO GET THERE WITH YOUR ATTITUDE TOWARDS NURSING. I THINK THE NURSING CURRICULUM NOWADAYS ARE SO HAPHAZARDLY DONE AND THEY ARE NOT CONCENTRATING ON THE CARING PART OF THIS PROFESSION. THOSE WHO WANTS TO BE OUT OF THIS PROFESSION SHOULD DEFINITELY DO SO AND I THINK THAT IS THE BEST MOVE, I DIDN'T THINK YOU WILL BE HAPPY TO HAVE ONE OF YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS TAKEN CARED OF A NURSE WHO'S DISGRUNTLED ABOUT HIS OR HER JOB, LIKE YOU.
  62. Quote:
    Originally posted by Dan
    Nursing is the most degrading of all occupations and is somewhere close to working in a dog kennel. The paradox of it all is the that the nurse needs a strong knowledge base and the amount of responsibility we undertake is tremendous. <br />
    <br />
    My largest complaint is that I do not like the subservient nature of the work. Stepping and fetching for physicians. Being condecended to by patients, their families and more doctors. I particularily dislike how "some" foreign doctors treat us. In their countries nures are lowly misfits and some of them convey that very attitude to us. It is tough having to swallow pride and eating crow. Totally sucks. <br />
    <br />

  63. unfortunately, i have nothing redeeming to add to this catharsis.........NURSING JUST SUCKS.....PERIOD! After 15 years of this demeaning, dehumanizing, disrespectful, subservient, and financially unrewarding "sentence", i reached my absolute limit. thankfully i left my gun at home that day. i called my wife, gave her the news, and ended this dysfunctional career. as a nurse herself(...she made the mistake of becoming a NP--even bigger abyss of shit), she was completely supportive. after 4 wonderful months of only wiping MY arse, i become physically "sick" when contacting my colleagues and listening to their "usual" complaints.
    only advice.....get out STAT and uncage your imprisoned soul!
  64. I am a male and a 10 year veteran critical care nurse...I can see many of the things I dislike about nursing being expressed here, the expected subservience to physicians, the old burned out nurses beating the new excited ones down, and we nurses, who know more than any other how awlful it is to be treated like crap, turning around and doing the same thing to our CNA's. However, I love patient care in my heart and in my gut, and I enjoy helping these smelly, nasty, gross patients rise above all that and remember that they are human beings too, with dignity and deserving of respect. I find the techinical aspect of the medical profession fascinating. I wanted to advance in my career, but not to give up patient care, so I am currently in medical school. I am happy to report that the faculty was talking to us from the first few months we were there to be nice and respectful to nursing staff.....I believe that the culture of nurse-physician relationships will improve significantly over the next 10-20 years. (also, now females make up over 1/2 of medical students, which should help to dilute and disspell some of the gender-related bias shown to nurses. I understand why some of you can not stand it anymore....once you are burned out, it is hard to recover. Try to remember that when dealing with the new nurses on your floors if you can, and try to nuture them so they will not become so sick of it like we did. Good luck all.
  65. Quote:
    Originally posted by leftlateral
    nursing is simply the most degrading insulting occupation that i can imagine. I would certainly prefer to be a waiter at this point. Essentially this is what I am anyway, or a high tech babysitter. As a new nurse I am astounded by the lack of care experienced nurses have for the new grad. Giving report to the next shift is an absolute nightmare. Overweight morons shaking their heads at me...the only pleasure i have is knowing that these losers know absolutely nothing about human potential. they are perfectly happy drinking 4 gallons of dunkin' donuts coffee, taking smoke breaks, eating absolute garbage all day and bitching about their husbands/boyfriends. Where I work the working conditions are just ridiculous. My time with the patients amounts to handing out meds and doing a two minute assessment. I spend the remainder of my time doing documentation on meditech (which is some type of sick joke) and trying to communicate with cardiologists who think they are deities of some sort. The patients are a mixed bag. Some are pleasant genuinely good people and i enjoy meeting and working with them. The others either think they are at a hotel and i am the bus boy/maid/room service or they are the living dead that through the miracle of modern medicine we have kept alive long past their expiration date.<br />
    My advice to anyone considering a nursing career...turn away and run...as fast as you can...never question your decision....and if you are in school, quit now...you will be able to pay off your loans in a profession that doesn't eat then defecate upon its young. I anticipate the day i quit this miserable job and trust me i will never ever go back. I will have great satisfaction knowing that while i'm out enjoying life and all this world has to offer those unhealthy wide- assed precious moments-buying know-nothings will be toiling away in their pathetic little world.
    OH MY GOODNESS!!! Who are you? I would love to chat with you! I know that your post is serious, but I'm sorry to say that I was cracking up with each and every line! You are hilarious! What a riot! I just might print your post so that I may continue to have a good laugh! I am a nursing student who feels finished before I even start my career. I work on a medical surgical unit which sucks to hell! I must agree with those patients who think they are in a hotel or some sort of resort. My favorite is when I ask if there's anything that I can get them, then I go and 'fetch' it, and when I come back, they want something else, so I have to go fetch that also. By the time I'm done being a Girl Friday, guess, what...I have to rush around like a fool to actually do nursing care for those who need it. Good luck to you in whatever you choose to do. Again, you are hilarious! Thanks for the laugh!
  66. Quote:
    Originally posted by Zoolander
    The money is alright, but this job is all about stress. I HATE BEING A NURSE. I HATE BEING A MALE NURSE. Fng B's, no respect, back stabbing, snack-food-eatin', wide-assed, co-dependent, anti-depressant takin' women who all have relationship problems.<br />
    I'm going back to graphic design. Perhaps what the profession needs is more testosterone...
    Geez...you guys are cracking me up! I just read another post by someone who was really going off about nursing. I am a nursing student. Sadly, at this point, I feel the same way as some of you who have been nurses for a while. Maybe I just haven't found my niche. But after reading this, I'm not sure there is such a thing. Whoever you are, you are too funny! Seriously, I have noticed that in 2 posts, nurses are referred to as 'wide-assed', guess I'd better hit the gym--for I too have a newly formed wide ass :-)
  67. wow, you guys are really scaring me. I'm a nursing student in my junior year of nursing. I just completed my first med-surg rotation and I absolutely HATED it. My instructor was the biggest bitch ever and made a lot of us cry on many occassions. I chose this major because I want to help people and supposedly it's pretty good money. I thought maybe my feelings would change when I felt more comfortable in the hospital setting. But reading these posts leaves me feeling discouraged. Sadly, I haven't even graduated but I feel many of the same sentiments you have all posted. Does anybody have anything positive to say about nursing? I'm seriously asking because I would like to think there are positive aspects of nursing.
  68. Here is a thought, Nursing has the potential to be a really gratifying role in life. I have been a nurse for ten years. I still take pride in my job. but the truth of the matter is I cannot stand most other nurses. They spend so much energy tearing each other down. I think nursing needs an enema, there is so much bullshit that is heaped on nurses by other nurses that it makes me puke. We provide an important service to society and most people other than certain MDs with their heads up their colletive ass respect what we do. But we do not respect each other. For those of you out there who hate your job but see no way out I wish I could say I have an answer. I am back in school for an advanced practice role but if I was younger I probably would become a doctor or an engineer instead.
  69. I came here for the first time today very discouraged, depressed , and angry. After reading many of the posts from people who feel similarly frustrated in nursing I feel better. Plus, some of the comments made me laugh out loud! Thanks, I needed that.
  70. I have been a Nurse for 0ver 5 years and I have hated it so, much that I used to think about jumping off the 7th story while walking to my car after getting off work. I feel ashamed for saying this and have kept it secret. I recently just admitted to my husband after changing jobs over 4 times this last year. I have done alot Med Surg, Oncology, labor and delivery, dialysis, ER and ICU. and not one of those positions allowed me to have a lunch break or give good quality nursing care. Hospitals are so into saving money that they jepardize pt.s life's to save a buck.
  71. Thank god I am not the only one out there that hates being a nurse. I no longer have to feel so guilty about this. I myself started as a caregiver, then was a CNA, then an LPN for 5 1/2 years, and finally graduated with my RN last year. I KNEW I didn't like nursing but always thought that oh, maybe just MAYBE if I got my RN things would be so much better. HA!!!! What was I thinking!?!??! I am treated like absolute crap for $21.21 an hour. At my new job (as an RN, a new grad I might add, screw all of my LPN experience because they don't think it counts.) I was lied to about what hours I would be working, then got that switched to another shift, then another. AND THEN, I get switched from my 3, 12 hour shifts to 4, 8, and 12 hour shifts because I was going to my float unit and ended up bumping another nurse (which wasn't my fault) so they threw a HUGE fit! So my schedule gets changed so that they don't have to float EVER!!! WELL< try working my job as a new nurse there! I work 3 different units, IV, inpatient oncology, and outpatient infusion. Pushed back and forth to suit the needs of the whining bitchy managers and old hags I work with. I can work on 3 different units in my 12 hours.. 3!!!! Without extra pay!!! Not to mention that everything I do is wrong according to them. God, I could go on forever. What was I thinking. Why did I have to be so responsible and logical and safe. Of course I will always have a job, but what about a happy life? I see myself as a fat, old, crabby woman who hates her life, weighs 500 lbs, and works night shifts so I don't have to see anyone including patients......AHHHHHHHHHH HELP!!!!!!!
    Sorry for my horrible complaining. Really, I am just so bummed out.
    Magnet hospital my ass. MAGNET for CRAP!!!
    Sick of it all in Oregon.
  72. Feeling better after venting. But still wishing things were less stressful. Nursing is SO hard, there will never be anything easy about it. But not everyone I work with is terrible, nor are the patients all terrible. I still do not think I can do this forever, I'm too tired already. I apologize to anyone who might have read my other email, and anybody who might know me!!!!?!?! EEEK, but hey, we can't all have wonderful days everyday, and I'm only human.
  73. Wow! I hope all you unhappy nurses follow other paths in your careers. Nursing is versatile, the posibilities are endless. Don't give up and use your knowledge and energy to, perhaps, change what you don't like about nursing.
    And yes! nursing is not Glamorous, Money is not as great either when you think about the things you must deal with everyday. I mean putting up with rude individuals ( Doctors, patients, family and nurses like you)Yet, for those of us who love what we do, having a one pt out of one hundred smile at you after days of being semicomatose, or walking out of the hospital after being the subject of a code , makes up for the rest of bad days.
    I LOVE BEING A NURSE, I CARE FOR MY PATIENTS AND EVEN IF I HAVE A BAD DAY WITH OTHER NURSES LIKE YOU, I NEVER BRING IT OUT ON THEM.
  74. I LOVE being a nurse. It is everything wonderful and beautiful in the world. People, usually not in the profession, will say to me "I respect you and others so much that go into that profession. The nurses are the ones that do all the work and the doctors get all the glory." I have told student nurses that if you find your niche, then you will love being a nurse. That is the key, I think, is finding the area of nursing that you excel at. That is what I did and enjoy it so much better. I am a Diabetes Educator and love it. The nurses that hate their job are the ones stuck in a deadend job and are afraid of jumping into an area that is new and different. I always try to be positive about nursing with pros-
    pective students who are wondering if they did the right thing. I, too have worked with nurses who are bitter, gossip incessantly and make your worklife really hard. I had to move my office as a result of this and it worked. It was a very toxic environment for me to be working in and I almost quit my job because of them. I am sorry you had to quit your job to get away from this bitch, but their are positions available just for you. Don't give up!!! signed: Florida nurse
  75. I am writing to say I finally have the chance to contribute to the nursing shortage, and I am acting on it! After 20 yrs. of full-time bedside nursing, the best and kindest thing that I can say about this so called profession is that it can be interesting. I am finally getting married and because of my future husband's income, I can finally kiss this shit job good-bye. It's very, very sad that the backbone of healthcare is treated and rewarded so poorly, and most likely the trend will continue. I suspect our treatment is somewhat related to the fact that it is a female dominated "profession". I truly do not see things improving in any aspect with any significance ever. So, I say "Long live the nursing shortage"! I truly hope that all of you out there that must continue to toil in this field can find a way out, and that you also spread the word that this is a nowhere, nothing job. R.N.-real nothing- that is how I feel we are regarded! To all of you MD's out there who may read this web site and have treated nurses poorly, may you someday suffer from a lack of nursing care yourselves should you ever become patients! Bye-bye, shit job!
  76. I stumbled upon this site a month or so ago and find great comfort in it. I am in my second, and last semester, of nursing school. I knew I wanted out last semester but I already felt I had put too much time and effort into the program. Now I realize that it's not worth it and will be pursuing a different major next fall at school (and will graduate on time next May..yay!). Although one friend (who is probably at the very top of the class in academics) is dropping out also, most of my close friends are trudging along with grandeur dreams of nursing glory. I feel sorry for them. Two of them are already bitter. I'm sure they will fit in fine.

    I went into nursing because I liked medicine (and still do). I did pretty well in Micro and A&P. However, upon entering my first semester of "real" nursing classes, I was appauled that I was being taught how to feed and bathe a patient. I literally feel that the first semester was a complete was of my parent's money!!! This year I've had the joy of cleaning up poop, pee, and fending off professors that seem to hate students. One, who claims to have her masters, doesn't know the different between cerumen and cerebrum and explained pH balance in terms of "acidodic" and "alkalotic." And I go to a private, well respected 4 year university! All I do is busy work (nursing care plans...give me a freakin break) and I go into the hospital to assist the CNA's....what cheap labor we are! At least if I was a CNA I would be paid to do this horrid job. I have existed a whole year with this anxious feeling in my stomach. But the end is in sight and life couldn't be better. I am forever thankful that I have wonderful, supportive parents who don't care that I'm not going to be a poopie wiper aka Nurse for a living!!! Best of luck to those who are changing paths. It's never too late!
  77. Hey whats the time?
  78. 8:37 m8
  79. OH SHIT I GOTTA BE AT WORK!
  80. ah screw work, need a shit i think so brb
  81. COOL! I just went for a crap too! What a coincidence!! We must be fucking soul mates!!!
  82. yea or it was the curry that didnt agree wit u
  83. HA HA HA HA fucking too right mate
  84. Your whole profession is amazing. So full of yourself, yet so discontent that you treat your patients poorly and expect to be worshipped as if you were a gift to the world.

    Get real. If you want to be a doctor then go to medical school. You're no better or worse than any other care giver, so get over it.
  85. I am a male nurse who found a way to to leave the profession for awhile. If anyone is interested in doing that, you might want to consider starting your own business. My wife and I decided to give it a try. She left a stressful business career for this also. We started a women's fitness and weight loss center. We are a franchise, so it took us quite a bit of financial stretching with loans, but we were able to get the business off the ground and have been open about 8 months as of this date. We are finally starting to make some profit, which is not bad for a new business. It was very hard at first, and we thought we were not going to to make it for a couple months, but things are finally happening. I had to go back to work full-time in nursing for awhile, then down to part-time, then PRN, and now I am full-time at my business. We had to go through franchise training at our corporate offices and found there were a large number of nurses and teachers that had purchased franchises. The unique backgrounds we possess seem to help us fit well. We also do nutritional teaching, airbrush tanning, and body wraps in our business. As a male I keep a fairly low profile and mostly do marketing, business paperwork, and some nutritional instruction. My wife and another lady work in the fitness, body wrap and tanning areas. The ladies all know I'm a nurse and really like having me around, even though I'm a guy running a women only facility. Some of our clients are even nurses too. Keep in mind this is not something that everyone will be able to do. You will need the ability to raise enought capital in the form of liquid assets (money) to start the business and survive for up to a year before you start making a profit. Hint: I'm not a "Curves" owner, but I do compete with them, and very well at that. We are better IMHO. I am not selling anything here. I just see a lot of frustrated nurses who could be very happy in their own businesses, and also use their nurturing backround to help women feel good and be healthy. It's very rewarding. We even have husbands come in and thank us for helping their wives look and feel better. If you are interested, email me at nurz7896@yahoo.com I will be glad to point you in the direction of someone who can help you get started, or will discuss if you can qualify.
  86. I am so glad I found this site...I am so glad to know that I am not the only nurse that hates it...I graduated with my BSN 3 years ago and been through several jobs...I have worked in surgery, clinics, and now as of January I work in a hospital...I have tried everything and I hate it all... I don't like being a slave to doctors, patients, and other staff...I get no respect...I am deathly afraid of hurting a patient or myself due to being busy...I have to drag myself there...My husband and his family give me grief over the amount of jobs that I have been through and the fact of the matter is I have no problem holding down a job, I have never been fired or have had a reprimand, I just hate every job I have and am dying to be happy...I have decided to go back to school in the fall for anything but medicine...Probably business...but we are not financially stable enough for me to be able to quit my job and go to school and not work so I have to continue being a nurse. I wish my husband and his family would have to wipe an old wrinkly ass just once in their life...I think they would understand...I have no idea what possessed me from day one to pick this profession...I always ask nursing students if they are sure this is what they want to do...because when I was in school I thought I hated being in school not nursing...but now I know I should have followed my gut...I will be out of this profession ASAP
  87. I have been in nursing since 1991, mostly working in nursing homes. The "for profit" nursing homes are the worst. Patients have to do without proper wheelchairs, recliners, equipment. The medicaid ones must wear cloth diapers which do not hold anything at all. The CNA's can not get to them fast enough to keep from soiling all of the bed linens. The nurse's have to go though an act of congress to get a bandaid, or 4x4 and supplies to hold a skin tear in place or do an energency wound care. The staff to patient ratio falls greatly after the State Survey. I wonder if the State realizes that all the helpers they are witnessing when they show up are actually front office personel posing as CNA's. Everyone gets fed on time, supplements get passed within 10 minutes of their arriving. Let one of them return after the survey and pose as a family member and see what really goes on. The Administrators, the Directors of Nursing, have no problem with going home at their regular time even though the facility has a "skeleton" crew. I've worked on the graveyard shift where there was one nurse and a couple CNA's to 110 residents. Don't they realize that in a fire or a tornado there's no way to possibly get those people out of the building? I would venture to say that most nurses and staff genuinely care about their patients. But we are not miracle workers. When homes are not staffed properly, injuries occur to staff and to residents. Staff who obtain injuries on the job are treated with suspicion and disbelief, like they are trying to pull something over on management. If attitudes and practices do not change, the nursing shortage will be so great in the future, nursing homes will have to be shut down. Corporations have to stop worrying so much about the "bottom line". Human beings need to be treated with respect, and dignity, staff included. A little appreciation goes a long way as well. Please submit your replies.
  88. After 7 years in critical care nursing I am starting some classes
    in a couple of weeks that hopefully will lead to me leaving nursing
    forever. I'm a 39 year old male R.N. and I feel that I have done
    everything to make nursing work. The primary problem is
    extreme overwork that really does make it difficult to go to
    the bathroom often enough or even drink enough water to
    keep your system hydrated. I have tried several employers and let me tell you it is the same bullshit everywhere, with some
    being worse than others. I agree with another posting here
    that charting in meditech is a sick joke. It's just a bunch
    of fill in the blank time consuming irrelevant bullshit that takes
    a long, long time to complete. Even at the best of places though
    nursing charting tends to be outrageously overcomplicated
    and tedious as if administration feels that a ton of paper
    or computer charting will "DOCUMENT" good care. I've done
    a few types of nursing in several settings and it all sucks.
    The MD who seems like a real human being ia a great, great
    rarity. Most of the MDs are frowning bores with God syndromes
    who seldom even speak to the nurse unless its to bluntly
    demand something. I am a good nurse and a very hard worker
    but being a nurse today is an impossible job.
  89. How sad. Try being a cop. Perhaps a fire fighter. Whine, Whine, Whine.

    Grow up folks, you sound like a bunch of 12 year olds. If you don't like nursing then GET THE HELL OUT OF IT. Go do something (anything) you like. If your that angry on the job, you can't think well on the job and yer gonna kill someone sooner or later. Will it be a med error or a poor assessment?

    You do have choices.
  90. I've been in nursing, as a medic in the military, then an LVN, now an RN. I plan to quit soon because the job just sucks.

    I also get fired a lot because unlike a lot of you, I don't take any shit. I'm a "do not return" at one hospital for calling the head of neruosurgery a cocksucker in front of his residents after he disrespected me. I then explained to the residents that their mentor was a loud-mouthed pussey and if he wasn't careful, I'd have to fuck him up. Although the hospital won't have me back, he was very respectful to everyone the rest of the day.

    I also find that if I work with someone who tries to tell me how to do my job, if I say "shut your hole before I put something in it", they get the message.

    It's like this, they don't treat me like a professional, so I don't act like one anymore.

    I am respectful to patients and families (99.9% of the time) because they are getting ass-fucked worse of all.

    I should be able out of nursing by the end of the year, but I plan to sign up for some agencies so I can be a complete jackoff to doctors, the bitchy nurses, the snitches, and let them know what it's like for a nurse to have FU money.

    Also, to make a comment on what some said about foreign doctors. I find they are less arrogant than the american ones, and the few times I had problems with them, I find they back-down faster than the American ones after I have that little talk with them in the clean utility room with no witnessess.

    All I can say is those who don't stand up for themselves will always have to eat shit.
  91. Jeesh, and I thought in the States everything would be different and better... I'm out here in Germany; in 2000 I quit my nursing apprenticeship after 2 years out of 3 (that's what it is over here) because I couldn't take the bullshit. Now I'm regretting it, cuz I wanna move back to Canada, and having that would help me get settled faster, if I know where I'm headed and what I want to/have to do. I had dreams of getting my equivalent in Canada, and then moving to Miami or something (since so many Canadian nurses head to the States). I'm tired of winter. And I figured, it's a safe job. I'd always get one. And I don't mind the patients - and doctors seem to believe they are gods everywhere, so I used to exaggeratedly treat them like that - most couldn't handle it and backed down a bit - but they got the message - if they didn't, I was thought of as being ok and left alone. As a student I couldn't talk back, so I had to turn it around.

    But the bitchiness and blatant favoritism, the ego-trips and lies, the back-stabbing and conniving, the racism(in such a humane and educated job, it's quite disgusting...over here there are quite a few that hate Turks. Where I did my apprenticeship, they complained that Turkish women whined and cried and complained too much, and too much 'Allah' praying. The nickname for this 'condition' was 'morbus bosperus' - for all who don't know the Bosporus divides the city of Istanbul(Turkey) in an 'asian' side and a 'european' side, there are so many more examples, but too much for here) the snottiness, general ignorance and unhelpfulness, the in your face rudeness and disrespect, the crapping on students (I mean, we were students, there to learn, if we already knew everything, then we wouldn't be students) the 'I'm in charge and control' mania, the all-knowingness, the lying to family members...
    But I remeber us cracking up bad on one occasion...2x a year everyone had to go through these first aid workshops to refresh memories and introduce new stuff. Seeing these dragons get on their knees and not know jack shit anymore was too much.
    And I remember getting in shit for wearing too much make-up (I wore just the normal, I'm not excessive) right when one of those dragons sailed by - since everything else seems to be global, this species has got to be too; you know: Flirts with all the docs, ms. super intelligent, is friends with everyone who 'matters', hates students - and pretty much everyone who doesn't 'matter', constantly makes mistakes(but is genius in covering them up, or pushing it off on someone else) has done up nails, gold necklaces en masse, gold rings on every finger, perfume cloud, fake tan, is either very fat or very thin, has a new lay every other week (that everybody has got to know about), in summer heat brings out the open birkenstocks with toerings and pedicure - and for some reason, is never reprimanded by the powers that be.
    I could go on about all the pettiness, the meetings and conventions on the topic of mobbing and addictions at the workplace, with everyone nodding and saying amen and hallelujah and getting up the next day and continuing on with their bullshit.
    But why did I get my hopes up that it would be different somewhere else. People are people. Like I said, the pure job aspect of it, even the poopers(okay after 10 years, I might be saying different) doesn't really bother me. I liked it. BUT WHAT IS UP WITH THESE DRAGONS??? Why the hell are they the way they are? They were students too? I had one even lie about me and say I did something she did, so I got the rap for it. She was my designated mentor.
    About a year after I quit, I started wondering if I was running away from something, if I had made the right decision. And now that I wanna move back to Canada, and am now 30, maybe I should have finished it. But if it's even worse over there....And I always saw north America as being so nice and civil (on professional levels)...hmmm. What to do?
  92. I began nursing school a previous music major. I now wipe the assess I used to perform for. It was very glamorous, the first few months of nursing school (in a mid-west university). "Professors" (i.e. past shit wiping professionals) were all about how wonderful working with patient's needs and psychosocial issues were empowering. HA! I pass meds, assess, and assist people the the shitter and then wrap it all up by giving report to another nurse who screams at me if they haven't had their bath yet. I feel so bad that I don't have time to talk to patients. I have yet to meet a nurse that likes nursing. But, nurses do like talking about their wild nights with pot and ETOH as they sit eating their fries from mcdonalds we serve in our hospital (i know, ridiculous). Wow, that's our professionals. I have never been treated so badly in my life, as I have as a nursing student. I will graduate in 3 months from a BSN program (do you really need a B.S. to wipe front to back?), and I could cry. MDs think that you are stupid people who can only add up numbers on an I/0 sheet (and some RNs have trouble with that). I do not want to do this as a 23 year old man. I have to though, for the money. All my friends hate it too and plan on marrying rich, I would agree.

    Thinking about nursing school? You're a damned fool if you do. I remember thinking how wonderfully respected and amazing it would be to be an RN. I wish I had listened to the nurse that tried to discourage me. I now search for ideas on going back to music eduation. If I'm doing this for more than one year, I shall be a stress care patient who knitts sweaters to prevent my suicide.

    I would encourage anyone thinking about nursing to really think about it! And I mean, REALLY think about it. Remember, it is easy for a nursing prof. to tell you how great and wonderful nursing is. But remember, very few teachers work full-time as a nurse. Those that do work full-time will tell you, "RUN."

    It's a facade, those first few days of nursing school. You'll soon be treated like the shit you wipe up. I realize nurses are important, since we can't afford to have enough M.D.s in society, and honestly, MDs wouldn't wipe an ass. Our fancy professional degrees grant us the ability to safely cleanse the dirty peri areas of America and beyond.

    Also, think about it, why is there a shortage? And would you want to have to call and ask to give your patient Tylenol? well, get ready for it! It's a struggle of despair within the bowels of hell, called nurse.
  93. I HATE NURSING I HATE NURSING I HATE NURSING I HATE NURSING I HATE NURSING I HATE NURSING I HATE NURSING I HATE NURSING I HATE NURSING I HATE NURSING I HATE NURSING I HATE NURSING I HATE NURSING I HATE NURSING I HATE NURSING I HATE NURSING I HATE NURSING I HATE NURSING I HATE NURSING I HATE NURSING I HATE NURSING I HATE NURSING I HATE NURSING I HATE NURSING I HATE NURSING I HATE NURSING I HATE NURSING I HATE NURSING I HATE NURSING I HATE NURSING I HATE NURSING I HATE NURSING I HATE NURSINGI HATE NURSING I HATE NURSING I HATE NURSING I HATE NURSING I HATE NURSING I HATE NURSING I HATE NURSINGI HATE NURSING I HATE NURSING I HATE NURSING AND MY MANAGER IS A PIECE OF SHIT, NOSY ASSFUCKER!
  94. Well damnit! Here I am, a first semester student nurse and I'm already rethinking my choice of major... And now after reading all of yall's replies I'm feeling even worse about it. I go to a shitty little community college close to home in Texas because I couldn't afford to live on my own anymore though I was working 25+ hours/week as a full time student (I am well aquainted with a well-known thing called STRESS: financial, personal life, school, family, job, you name it)
    But back to what I was saying, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I've invested so much TIME,,,,,EFFORT,,, MONEY,,,into this damn nursing program and my stubborness doens't allow me to stop... Plus my pride... I've been congratulated on getting in, told how smart I am, how proud my parents are of me, etc... HOW CAN I LET THEM DOWN NOW??? I'm just yearning for that total 180 change of lifestyle that will happen when I finally make a decent income... "Just two more years...." is what I keep telling myself to keep me going...
    I'm guilty of going into this major for the money... I'm smart and could really do just about anything I want to... so instead of doing what I actually enjoy (which would be more in the Accounting major) I'm wiping asses, putting up with bitchy charge nurses, pulling all-nighters studying, and FOR WHAT!?!?!? For something that I dont' even know that I want to do!!! And its hard to be working so hard for something you just don't think is meant to be for you... so do I stop now or stick it out? The answer seems obvious: STOP! But I'd be too ashamed, too proud, TOO POOR TO LAST ANOTHER 4 YEARS!!!!!!!! I've made a lot of friends in the nursing program and I don't want to be the weak one who can't take it... I don't know.... damn it all...
  95. Quote:
    Originally posted by thank you for the aide part it is true the aides are the back bone so to speak cause without us nursing homes would be in trouble and they pay very little for what we have to do.
    Nursing is where the heart is! Bullshit!!! Pardon my language if I offend anyone. There is just so much crap involved in nursing that it isn't even funny. The area where I am at are racist toward anyone who is not Filipino (what sucks is I'm Filipino myself) and they seem to target non-Filipino CNAs. I am the only one who seems to notice this and I don't like it one bit. CNAs are our third eyes and they have one f*&^kin' tough job. Cleaning piss, shit, vomit, you name it they clean it and they get treated like crap. Come on people; just because we are nurses that doesn't mean we treat our CNAs like crap. As a Filipino-American male nurse, I am absolutely ashamed in the way my own freakin' race treats non-filipino CNAs. Being yelled at by family, doctors, patients, administration, etc. all comes along with this field. That is why I can't wait to leave. I already told some of my coworkers that I will depart at anytime because I feel that, if I were to continue with nursing, I will die. There were times I was depressed about my (parent's) career choice to the brink of having suicidal thoughts. Luckily, I have a supportive girlfriend (a nurse, by the way) and a very great intern therapist so I could have a shoulder to cry on. Nursing has gotten to the point in my life where I just want only the money. Now I now why there is a nursing shortage.

  96. We can begin making some distinction:
    Hospital RN: shitty job. No matter if med-surg icu, er, etc. No matter if you have a bsn or not you get the same for the most part. Worst labor conditions. Administrators are union bashing. Ussually no breaks, back breaking work. IF administrator, you are just again staff nurses promoting the interests of the hospital.

    Psych nurse: good at being cops and promoting the status quo of psychiatry. County nurse. Good at treating people like crap mostly poor people, putting people on restraints etc, worse administration (usually LCSW, social workers are the administrators on the top...nothing to do with nursing, just burocrats). Worst budget and many middle management. BSN not needed. Booooring after a while. Same with forensic nursing (just working with prisioners. All poor and minorities unfortunately).

    Public health nurse. Bsn needed, most ot the time a highway robbery to taxpayers. Weekends off, holidays off and paid. County job. Many breaks. Almost exclusively for women although I was working (as a men) on a 'foster care" position: a desk job working with two of the laziest fat asses you can imagine. I quit out of boredom and my brain going dumb besides feeling as I was robbing the tax payer (and those fat asses cheking the email all day and surfing the internet non-stop...ebay, yahoo, religious sites..oh shit!). Mostly a burocrat position.

    NUrsing homes: BEing taken by the "for profit organizations" buying several at the time, exploiting everybody: old folks, nurses, cna's. Minimum 35 patients or so. Passing pills with apple sauce all day. Horrible benefits.

    Working for a doc: kiss ass all day.

    Solution for me: getting out of nursing. I want to take new classes next semester. Hopefully I will be out soon.
  97. Quote:
    Originally posted by Unregistered
    How sad. Try being a cop. Perhaps a fire fighter. Whine, Whine, Whine.

    Grow up folks, you sound like a bunch of 12 year olds. If you don't like nursing then GET THE HELL OUT OF IT. Go do something (anything) you like. If your that angry on the job, you can't think well on the job and yer gonna kill someone sooner or later. Will it be a med error or a poor assessment?

    You do have choices.

  98. You are in the wrong location for job lovers!

    I've worked with people like you. Your so on the edge of burnout yourself you can not stand any bickering. So..., you believe by being critical of others that you are giving meaning to your delusional happy state of mind in the work place.

    Instead of being critical of others how about being a mentor? Lend a helping hand, ask others if they need help. Co-melinger with someone who is at wits end-lend a mental health helping hand. Try answering your own call bells for a change. Don't ask coworkers for help until you ready to utilize their help. My favorite word empathize! with others.

    You do this, next thing you know your having fun at work and, so will your co-workers. Be part of the solution yourself - you critical of others attitudes want-a-be.

    Signed Sick of Holy than thou
  99. Quote:
    Originally posted by Unregistered
    Your whole profession is amazing. So full of yourself, yet so discontent that you treat your patients poorly and expect to be worshipped as if you were a gift to the world.

    Get real. If you want to be a doctor then go to medical school. You're no better or worse than any other care giver, so get over it.

  100. Oh yah, worked with your kind also. My guess your a MD! Talk about the kettle calling the pot black.

    If you can't be part of the team, perhaps it is you that should go else where. You spend 5 mins with your self centered patient, who do you think listens to their BS the other 23Hours and 55 mins. your not there. Better yet mabye we should page you everytime they insist that we contact you. Nurses have had the backs of MD's for years while MD's treat us like we've nothing to contribute.

    Do you have any idea how much care is taken from "normal" emotional patients taking care of your weiner? But why should I believe your able to tell the difference, your just as self centered as you patient!
  101. Ten years ago I got divorced. With a 3 year old daughter and at a minimum wage job with no health benefits I was forced to go on welfare since my lovely ex-husband decided he wasnt going to pay child support. I lost my house to a foreclosure and was soon bankrupt. I had to move back in with my parents. With my parents encouragement I went to nursing school thinking it was my only way out of poverty. I began working as a CNA. OMG how horrible. Seeing sick, dying people, wiping up shit, puke, puss, blood. Being scratched, pinched, punched by 90 year old women. Seeing the depressing day to day life at a nursing home. I felt as if maybe my life would have beeen better if I stayed married to my evil ex-husband or ended it. But I had to do something, for my daughter. I had no interest in becoming a Nurse. I hated it from the very beginning. I knew deep down inside I wanted to help people but everyone I met in the profession was mean, burntout, cold hearted and uncaring. Not just the nurses, doctors, or cna but patients, families, administration, you name it. remember going to open houses for colleges and having the nursing professors tell us "Look to your left and look to your right, that person will not be there when it comes time for graduation". Why would I want to go to school for a profession that want to flunk you before you even apply? But I did it anyway. 6 years later and $30,000.00 in debt from student loans I finally finished. Oh I thought, now me and my child will have a normal life I will have a wonderful respected job that i will love and I will be able to afford to give my child whatever she wants. Well my first job, as so many I interviewed for was full time nights. You cant get a normal day job in nursing unless you have worked at it for many many years. I started my first job at Yale New Haven Hospital in the High risk Maternity ward. Every single nurse hated all the new grads. They told us that we didnt belong there and we were treated like shit. It was my dream job. Working in womens health and working with new borns. But my dreams were soon crushed by my evil preceptor Nurse N. She was also a professor at a local college in L+D nursing. She spent most of her time correcting papers from her other job, wearing her scrub pants backwards so that there was a bow at her ass, and pretty much not doing a very good job precepting me. I learned nothing from her except that she hated me, all new nurses, and I really felt bad for her students at her teaching job because she was out for blood. Those day nurses had a pretty cushy job. They would sit on their asses in the break room, eat crap, drink coffee, gossip, talk about tennis lessons, how great their husbands and children were, and how perfect their lives were. They would occasionally look up at the monitor, monitoring mother and baby. God forbid they ever had to do any work. Needles to say I had very bad training and was thrown into the fire with little to no knowledge. Complaining to my nurse manager wasn't getting me anywhere. She was a chain smoking idiot who hid in her office because the old crones on the day shift had it out for her. Eventually she had a nervous break down and quit. Sad, really sad. I quit eventually too. They ran me off. I got an admission one night were I was told by the L + D nurse that the patient was not ready for labor, that the intern or med student or what ever had checked her and that she was not even dialated. I was to babysit her until she went into labor. Funny, I was never trained as a L+ D nurse. How was I supposed to know what that was like????? With all new grads on the night shift and only 3 months experience I knew all hell was about to break looose. As soon as the patient arrived on the floor she was screaming" I have to poop, I have to poop". I knew something was wrong. It hadn't been that long since I had my own child. So I called the intern, and called, and called and called and 10 calls later to the intern, resident, attending. Nothing. Some other doctor was there and I asked her for her help. She pretty much called be stupid and went in to examine the patient who was about ready to give birth. She literally had the baby on the elevator on the way down to the L + D. She was only on our floor for 10 minutes. The doctor who examined her proceeded to yell and scream at me. Hey, I did everything right, I was literally getting report on this woman who was suppossedly not even dilated and 5 minutes later she is fully dilated and ready to give birth. And it is completely my fault. Not the origianal Doctor that examined her and decided to send her up to the high risk maternity floor to chill out but my fault. A new grad with no training in L+D and did everything by protocol by calling the chain of command of doctors on call with no response and no help from the other new grads because they didn't know what they were doing anyway. Well quit that job. Next job was at a Dialysis unit. First day on the job, my trainer, who was not even a CNA but a Tech, an ugly, toothless, gay man, tells me. I hate women, I hate nurses and I hate you. Great this is the guy who is supposed to train me. Another complaint to the Nurse Manager who was so meek and so afraid of this guy because he would shout "lawsuit, i am a gay man, dont mess with me" and pretty much let him get away with whatever he wanted. This job 3 days a week 14 hour shifts. I wanted to die when I got home. The last job I worked night. All I did was sleep and work. I could not function by working nights, not to mention the stress from all the horrible nurses and doctors. Now this job all I could do on my days off was sleep. I thought that now that I was making a decent living I could afford so many great things for me and my daughter. But between my $300.00 per month student loan, rent, car payment, and utilities and food, I was actually making more money on welfare, working part time as a cna and living at my parents. How could this be?????? well my dialysis job lasted about a year. You can train a monkey to be a dialysis nurse. You are a robot on a machine. You see the same patients every week. The y are on transplant list, or not, either way they know they are going to die. They know that their life sucks, being hooked up to that machine for 4 hours 3 times a week. Not the most pleasant people, not the most pleasant out look. Very depresssing. the people I worked with were not much more happier. At about this time just over a year into the nursing profession I was on antidepressants, anti anxiety pills, and a full blown alcoholic. I left that job after Mr. Twinkle toes Tech thought it would be nice to get some patients to hate me just as much as he hated me. In the Meek little mouses office during one of our many meetings about this male tech who hated my guts, he questioned me onhow I handled an unruly patient that was swearing and causing a commotion and disrupting the other patients. I had documented everything that happened and he proceeded to rip up the chart a legal document and my meek little boss watched and did nothing. Wonderful place to work. Some days I thought I was in Hell. That yes I really did kill my self and my punishment in Hell was to be a nurse. After working that job I worked for an agency. I was already burnt out. I tried everything. Insurance companies, Doctors offices, homecare, nursing homes. No matter what, it was all the same bull shit. Evil doctors, evil co workers, evil patients, shitty degrading work with no respect. I think I worked at 11 diffent places that year. With my monthly student loan payment there was no way out. I could not even afford to go back to school for something else. I could not even afford to take a less paying normal job, m-f, 9-5 with no weekend and no holidays. Besides I did not even qualify for those jobs. It like if you have a BSN on your resume you are doomed to be a nurse forever. My next and final job in nursing at a local water front community hospital lasted 3 years, but brought me to my breaking point. I saw everything at this job. Other nurses stealing narcotics and taking them on the job. Complaining to nursing management about the narcotic stealing and getting the brush off. Endless gossip about who is who, who is doing who, who did who and who is a ho bag, blah , blah ,blah. Getting called on your day off, having to stay a double, working hard and taking classes on your own like ACLS and not being considered for promotions. I started at this small community hospital part time but had to take a full time float position after breaking up with my significant other. I couldnt afford the rent and the student loans and the bills.
    Big mistake, beign a float nurse at this hospital was like being a whipping boy. Towards the end I wasnt even doing nursing. I was a high paid babysitter for crazy people who were combative and needed to be in restraints but no we cant do that . Administration would rather not have to do paperwork for the state but rather have one of their employees get attacked and beaten. I was a high paid CNA or worst a high paid secretary. I left nursing.
  102. Thank you for the advice. I was planning to go to school for nursing in January, but I think I am going to do something else after what you've said. Just want to let you know that competition for graphic design jobs is fierce, there are too many graphic design majors graduating every semester, you'll also be competing with graphic designers in India. I was a graphic designer once, got lousy pay for my second job doing layouts for bong pipes catologes, sex pills, etc. Have you consider studying Accounting instead?
  103. Quote:
    Originally posted by Unregistered
    How sad. Try being a cop. Perhaps a fire fighter. Whine, Whine, Whine.

    Grow up folks, you sound like a bunch of 12 year olds. If you don't like nursing then GET THE HELL OUT OF IT. Go do something (anything) you like. If your that angry on the job, you can't think well on the job and yer gonna kill someone sooner or later. Will it be a med error or a poor assessment?

    You do have choices.

  104. YES, I CAN SEE YOUR PART OF THE SOLUTION ALSO.

    PRO QUO BONO HEY! PERHAPS YOUR PART OF THE PROBLEM, THINKING THAT YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT THINGS THE WAY THEY ARE!

    MY OBSERVATION, YOUR THE MINORITY IN HEALTH CARE..., "THINKING THAT EVERYTHING IS ALRIGHT".

    I'LL BET YOU JUST LOVE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF YOUR CO-WORKERS!
  105. bumped!
  106. I am presently undertaking a course in nursing at graduate school in Manchester UK. The course is an accelerated one for graduates. I have a degree in psychology and wanted to do something else but the labour market sucks for arts graduates. I thought nursing would be good as it guarantees a job yet it seems to have been the worse decision of my entire life. You get treated like you have shit for brains by everyone. I get up at 6am to be greated by lazy staff nurses who just sit in the office and do jack while they boss around the students and aux nurses. I spent four hours just cleaning up shit. Is that why I did a degree and this mickey mouse pseudo profession. Im doing a computer course around the nursing to try and get out. It is do depressing I loathe it. I would not advise anyone to go into nursing if you have a choice to do anything else.
  107. First of all, Dan: As a dog owner for 25 years, I'd prefer the kennel -- at least a dog can grasp the concepts of loyalty and respect! A dog only bites for a reason! A dog's death is far more poignant ... Of course, a dog's life is far more meaningful than, say ... a nurse's!

    Until I found this site yesterday, I thought I was freakishly alone in detesting certain aspects of my job. I've been an RN only 8 years, with half that time spent in the ER. Whatever I do, though, whether ER, pysch or med/drudge, I feel that I am little more than a glorified waitress. People take that same attitude with a nurse that they do with waitresses, too, you know, that, 'you're just a servant: you don't count' bullsh*t mentality. I can identify with 12 hour shifts without breaks, low pay, and all the administrative garbage that tags along for the ride on your back.

    Making 7 or 8$ an hour as a secretary, just to get by is starting to look better and better all the time!
  108. I am thinking about going into this profession, but reading all of these comments have made me think twice. I have 1 aunt that is a nurse and now that I think about it, she has never said she loved being a nurse or talked about how great the career is.
  109. Quote:
    Originally posted by Unregistered
    I am thinking about going into this profession, but reading all of these comments have made me think twice. I have 1 aunt that is a nurse and now that I think about it, she has never said she loved being a nurse or talked about how great the career is.
    Congratulations! It's too late for the rest of us....you were able to realize it before even starting! Good luck in another career choice.
  110. My older sister almost completed an RN degree about 15 years ago. Then she had an accident, left school, and recovered but decided not to return. After reading all these posts about just how bad the nursing profession is, I am so glad my sister did not become a nurse. Our family was disappointed but now I know my sister could never have handled the kind of stress discussed here - life and death situations, understaffing, arrogant doctors, demanding and unappreciative patients (though I firmly believe there are a lot of folks who *do* very much appreciate the work nurses do - I certainly do).

    I do wonder if the profession wouldn't be so under-regarded if nurses were mostly men...

    Thanks to all you nurses who do the best you can under such difficult circumstances.
  111. I graduated in May 2004 and my family has forced me to start working as a nurse. I hate it. My 'mentor' told me NURSES EAT THEIR YOUNG. I am in a teacher certification program b/c I do not want to EVER be in nursing again
  112. Quote:
    Originally posted by Unregistered
    Lovely. Why don't you go back to SCHOOL and learn the BASICS OF THE ENGLISH GRAMMAR. Then, perhaps, I might take your comments seriously.

    Signed,
    I HATE THE HELL OUT OF BEING AN RN
  113. I'm a student working an internship and I absolutely hate it! I'm dropping out of school next semester. I'm treated like an idiot. I can't b elieve i made the decision to go back to school and go into this profession. Totally regret it!
  114. I can finally say that i am leaving the nursing 'profession' it really is a great feeling. I have a post as a receptionist and its less money but its a start and I will no longer have to just clean up shit. Hoooooooooooooooooray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Take the gamble and get out it really is the way forward. I would not advise anyone to undertake such a thankless profession.
  115. I have been reading these posts and I don't know whether to be relieved (because it isn't just me) or depressed. I am graduating from nursing school in a week and I cry almost every day. I am treated badly by every nurse I know. They are very backstabbing and hateful. I cannot understand this at all. I am dreading finding a job and being around people like this on a daily basis. I always thought that once I finish school I would know enouph to be independant and wouldn't need so much help from others but this just isn't so. If I had it to do over again I definately would do something different. I just hope it gets better.
  116. "I think you guys are a really pathetic bunch. Rather than standing up for yourselves & doing what you really want, you continue working in a field in which very sick people rely on your compassion. You take out your frustrations on them. Maybe not overtly, but don't you think they can feel it??? Shame on you!! <br />
    All I can say is grow up & take responsibility for yourselves. Don't blame the nursing profession. They are many nurses who love their jobs & are dedicated to their profession. You are a the reason why people "hate" nurses. What you put out is exactly what you will get back. If you hate it, leave the profession. Period. Stop bitching about it & start acting toward making changes in your life. It isn't your client's fault (or the profession's fault) that you aren't happy, that you did what your parents wanted you to do, that you made a mistake. Move on & get over it already! "

    I wish it were that simple. It isnt the nursing profession that I hate....it's the nurses. If it werent for them this job would be awesome. Nurses (99%) are truly bitches.
  117. Quote:
    [i]I wish it were that simple. It isnt the nursing profession that I hate....it's the nurses. If it werent for them this job would be awesome. Nurses (99%) are truly bitches. [/b]
    Ditto
  118. Quote:
    Originally posted by Unregistered
    How sad. Try being a cop. Perhaps a fire fighter. Whine, Whine, Whine.

    Grow up folks, you sound like a bunch of 12 year olds. If you don't like nursing then GET THE HELL OUT OF IT. Go do something (anything) you like. If your that angry on the job, you can't think well on the job and yer gonna kill someone sooner or later. Will it be a med error or a poor assessment?

    You do have choices.
    CSSGMFJ. shut up you self-rightious ass.
  119. Quote:
    Originally posted by Unregistered
    I can finally say that i am leaving the nursing 'profession' it really is a great feeling. I have a post as a receptionist and its less money but its a start and I will no longer have to just clean up shit. Hoooooooooooooooooray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Take the gamble and get out it really is the way forward. I would not advise anyone to undertake such a thankless profession.
    i'm happy for you. i'm looking for my escape from it now. it's a gigantic burden off my shoulders already. just knowing that very soon i won't have to do this anymore.
  120. I am a new graduate nurse in Palm Beach, FL. I was really looking forward to my career after going through hell in nursing school. I was soon deflated shortly after I took my first job at Bethesda Memorial. As a new nurse I was treated like dirt by some of those nasty, gossip-mongering, backstabbing bitches who work there. The doctors treat them like total trash, and they turn around and do the same thing to the CNAs, PCAs, and new grads. The DON is a very dizzy broad who doesn't have a clue and for the most part, as a new grad you are on your own.

    The staff turnover is extremely high there, the pay sucks, and the politics is unbelievable! Now I am heading back to college to get a degree in another field. I want to be as far away fron Nursing as possible. Nursing is a very special profession in that your co-workers are much more interested in tearing you down and stabbing you in the back than they are in actually doing their jobs.

    To all nursing students: take some time to seriously consider what you are getting yoruself into. Nursing is a thankless and very degrading job. The money isn't all that great when you consider all the shit you'll be going through everyday. Unfortunately, you don't really get to see the terrible side of the nursing profession until you are done with school and start working as a nurse.
  121. To all you nursing students, turn back before its too late otherwise you will regret it. Go for a degree in medicine, engineering, business, Physician Assistant...anything but Nursing. Nursing is the absolutely worst job imaginable! True there's bullshit everywhere, but there's simply nothing else out there that even comes close to Nursing.

    No matter how good you feel about being a nurse when you're a new grad, the bullshit you encounter everyday from other nurses, management, the physicians, the patients, and the family members will slowly turn you into a bitter and sarcastic person. You'll probably end up with a bad back before long from moving and lifting all the obese patients you're going to have. You spend your days cleaning vomit, blood, piss, and crap, and you work your butt off trying to keep people alive and in the end all you get is shit on.

    Its not in my nature to be nasty, and I found that being a nurse was making me so miserable that I had no choice but to quit. No amount of money is worth it. I would NEVER recommend Nursing as a career to any young person!!!!!!!!!!!!
  122. Quote:
    Originally posted by Unregistered
    To all you nursing students, turn back before its too late otherwise you will regret it. Go for a degree in medicine, engineering, business, Physician Assistant...anything but Nursing. Nursing is the absolutely worst job imaginable! True there's bullshit everywhere, but there's simply nothing else out there that even comes close to Nursing.

    No matter how good you feel about being a nurse when you're a new grad, the bullshit you encounter everyday from other nurses, management, the physicians, the patients, and the family members will slowly turn you into a bitter and sarcastic person. You'll probably end up with a bad back before long from moving and lifting all the obese patients you're going to have. You spend your days cleaning vomit, blood, piss, and crap, and you work your butt off trying to keep people alive and in the end all you get is shit on.

    Its not in my nature to be nasty, and I found that being a nurse was making me so miserable that I had no choice but to quit. No amount of money is worth it. I would NEVER recommend Nursing as a career to any young person!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Yep, Yep...Very true!
  123. I too am glad that I came upon this site as I have felt that it is only me - that I am a failure; a bad person who doesn't like helping people. But that's not what it's about at all, is it? Nursing is about patients and caring and compassion and helping others, right? Wrong! Nursing is about short staffing, no breaks, back breaking work; rude doctors, managers, patients and patient families. I recently had a conversation with a friend who found out what my working conditions are like - she was appalled and wondered why I put up with it. I replied that it has been this way for the 9 years I've been a nurse - so it has just become the norm. Well, for this nurse whose student loans are paid, it is time to do something different.
  124. When I read about the nursing "shortage" I have to laugh. The truth is that there is no shortage of registered nurses. There are thousands of experienced and well-qualified RNs who have left the nursing 'profession' to go do other things because they eventually get fed up with the abuse and the all the bullshit that goes along with this so-called career. Nurses don't get paid anywhere near enough for all the shit we have to put up with everyday in the hospitals. The physicians get all the perks and the big bucks and they don't do shit for the patients except look at them for a minute or two, then they write a bunch of orders and disappear. It is us, the nurses who do everything for the patients. Many times when the physicians screw up with the orders we are the ones who have to cover their asses, yet these same doctors turn around and treat us like shit.

    Nursing is in a terrible state right now, and its only getting worse.
  125. thats right. there is no real shortage of nurses. employers work the floors short staffed on purpose. there are always new RN's, LPN's, and CNA's being hired and oriented by the droves. thats so it looks like the employers are trying to staff adequately. the trith is they are running staff away by overworking them and treating them like shit. there are many trained medical professionals out there. and you are right about nurses covering for MD's too. if we stopped doing that even more pts. would be harmed or die from MD errors. but we all know that a way would be found to hang it on some poor nurse. because the nurses are the last ones down the line and the easiest to pin everything on.
  126. The OP made a comment about the way older nurses treat younger ones and it is 100% true. Some nurses are the ultimate bitches and you always have to be watching your back when you work with them. Either that or find another way to make a living. I hope the OP understands that many of these nurses who are so mean to the new graduates probably weren't always like that. There's something about the nursing profession that can turn even the nicest of people in the nastiest and most miserable and sarcastic bitches. I can't even explain it. Its just a thing that happens to many of us and then we begin to burn out. The causes are numerous, and a lot of them have already been mentioned by other people on this forum. For some people, it even brings them to the point where they hate themselves and everyone around them.

    If I stay in nursing it would be strictly for the money, and after I've done my shift I go home to my family and forget all about the shitty hospital and the nasty people until the next day. Yes, for me its all about the money and I refuse to be a hypocrite about this. I put up with the bullshit because I make pretty good money, and that's my sole motivator. Anyone who says they're in nursing because they love to take care of people is living in a dream world. Its bullshit to believe that anyone can 'love' being abused, accused, condescended to, and cleaning vomit and shit all day long.

    Its not that I don't care about my patients. I really do. BUT, I care about me more.
  127. yes. the job does change to being all about the money. thats all it's about for everybody running the show. why the heck should nurses be the only ones expected to feel differently about it?
  128. It seems all the failures and complainers are here. Please don't come out into the real world. Stay here and preach to the choir! The only disgruntled CNA's I've met are those who are too lazy to do the job. You get treated badly by family members? Then you aren't performing adequately to get pats on the back. Virtually every successful CNA I have met earns respect by doing a good job. It's the dirtiest job on the health care team, but only the morons get into it and then say, "Gee, there's a lot of dirty work to do." Duh!!!

  129. I typed in "I Hate Nursing" and found this post site. I am in shock and saddened by the stories I have read, and yes, some have made me laugh. Overall, most have made me realize that I am not an awful person as I too hate nursing. I have been an RN for 20 years. It took several years to finally complete school after being an NA and was so proud of my accomplishment. I even returned to get a bachelor's degree. I have had two very long term employments and several short (less than a year) and was recently terminated for "insubordination", ie, I would not take abuse from a manager that clearly had emotional problems and lacked the skills to manage a garage sale. The whole incident was embarrassing and frustrating but I kept my dignity and I will file for unemployment to take a much needed and desired rest. I now have the leisure to look for a job outside of nursing. If by chance I find one IN nursing that would be the icing on the cake but it is doubtful. To all of the nurses that have posted, my heart goes out for you. You deserve better and I hope you find it. I know all too well how it feels to think I would be better off gone than live the life I had been living and that is so wrong. To those of you that are thinking of entering the field or still in school -- run!!!! Run as fast as you can!!!!! Reality is dreadful and the real risk of harming a human life is a constant.
    Good bless and take care of yourself and your family!
  130. I am truly amazed at the number of people who hate nursing as much as I do. I too typed into a search engine the words 'I hate nursing' and found this site. I see many people have experienced the same kind of things I have experienced. I've been in this profession 17 yrs. I started as a cna became an lpn then rn. I started to work on a bachlor's then wondered 'why?' I hate the liability that is shoved down my throat on a daily basis. I hate the long hours, the pressure placed on us each day to live up to the expectations of patients, administration and our own ideals. I hate never feeling good, never being refreashed after sleeping, never being able to be a part of the family because of having to work. I hate all of what everyone else has talked about. If I had known what true nursing was before going to school I would never have gone to school. As a cna, I was encouraged by other nurses to go to school. They filled my head with 'all the good you can do.' My question now is, "what good have I done?" Is anyone any better because of my personal touch? The answer is NO! If I had not been there to give that pill, or shot, or whatever...someone else would have been there. Right now I feel like I've wasted my time, my money, my life, my efforts. So, I am changing professions as many who have posted are doing. I am glad to have found like minded people, I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who is dissatisfied with this job. When I've told others how dissatisfied I am, they give me a guilt trip. They make me feel like I don't have a right to feel the way I do. They tell me all that crap about compassion, sacrifices, etc. which makes my skin crawl anymore. I can't even read anything about the virtues of nurses without wanting to vomit. And I know it is because my experiences have not lived up to those ideals of who nurses are. I am very disillusioned. Thanks for reading my story.
  131. I've gotten out of nursing for the time being... It's funny to read how miserable I was in '03. I'm getting the art degree I wanted right now. Guess what? I no longer need to shovel motrin in all day to get rid of my stress headaches, chased by pepcid for my constant GI upset... followed by 50 of benadryl just to go to sleep at night. Amazing how that works...

    oh, and by the way... to whoever you may be from above:
    "It seems all the failures and complainers are here. Please don't come out into the real world. Stay here and preach to the choir! ..."

    Spoken like all the ass kissing, brown nosing "I wanna be a manager someday" bitches I had to work with over my 9 year nursing career. I'm sure every single one of us who is dissatisfied sits on our ass while our patients choke to death and the phones ring off the hook. Everybody but you. I bet you have a fucking "luv a nurse" tattoo on your left boobie too. I bet all your coworkers go out after work and talk shit about you. Go find the "I Love My Job!" forum before I puke.
  132. Quote:
    Originally posted by Unregistered
    Your whole profession is amazing. So full of yourself, yet so discontent that you treat your patients poorly and expect to be worshipped as if you were a gift to the world.

    Get real. If you want to be a doctor then go to medical school. You're no better or worse than any other care giver, so get over it.
    Hey sweetie, you reek of whatever crappy ancillary department you work in. Go back to your little x ray tech job, or physical therapy gig... one of the ones that you picked because the thought of feces was way too yucky for you to handle... and bitch about nurses some more. It's pretty sad that your general hatred of nurses is so all consuming that you even once decided to Google "I hate nurses".
  133. G'day! I'm reading your American website from Australia and see that you have the same problems over there (and in the UK), that we have here.

    It is true that a large number of nurses do treat their patients poorly, but that is often because they are treated badly by the health system. It's hard to treat people properly in a system that constantly cuts back on staff and equipment, has you running from ward to ward for basic things such as: Normal saline IV flaks, bandages, blankets, sheets and towels (so that you can keep your patients dry and clean), etc. How do you do this and spend quality time with your patients? Don't forget you have to give out medications and from my experience a good day was finding one to two mistakes per shift on the your patients drug charts, a bad day was finding 10 to 15 mistakes. Of course finding these mistakes means spending time away from your patients, contacting doctors to have the errors corrected; which often results in the nurse being abused by egocentric doctors who would rather that you administered the wrong drug & or dose and killed the patient, than pointed out their mistakes.

    Once the doctor has finished belittling you for his mistake and amended the drug charts, you proceed administering the medications to your patients, who may be annoyed at you because they are getting their meds a bit late.

    Next comes the Morning showers, baths, or washes; at the same time the ward clerk wants you to take a phone call from Mr Smith, who wants to know how his wife is, then Mrs Jones rings about her husband, Miss Brown wants to know about her brother, etc, etc, etc. The bottom line is THIS IS WHAT NURSING IS LIKE 24 hours a day 7 days a week. Consequently nurses become tired and irritable with each other, animosities form, job dissatisfaction increases and workplace bullying becomes a part of the system. Unfortunately this affects patient care and it is not a healthy environment for anyone to be in.

    I got out of nursing in 1999 after injuring my back twice and being made to work on a Neurology ward in a back brace floating between 25 heavy patients. I was only 46 kilograms at the time. When I tried to work with my injury I was bullied and abused by the other nurses, because I needed help lifting patients. Eventually I stopped work as I was put on Valium for the muscle spasms in my back. My employer continually phoned me up while I was on this medication, demanding that I get back to work; however I refused so they terminated my work cover payments, as a result I had to claim a disability pension from social security and couldn't afford medical treatment.

    I had a lawyer who was bought off by work cover and a no win no fee case ended up costing me 17 thousand dollars. They got away with injuring me because I had done everything work cover asked and returned to work after the initial injury, consequently my employer claimed the exacerbated injury was a separate injury.

    My original injury occurred 18 months after I graduated; I am now in my 30s on a disability pension and still have nightmares about the abuse I endured through nursing.

    Despite every thing I've been through people keep trying to get me to go back to nursing. What the hell do they think we are, work horses to whip into the ground. Get real! I have every right to hate nursing, it ruined the best years of my life.

    Like many of you, I also laugh when I hear about the shortage of nurses; it's about time nurses woke up to the bull shit about nursing and got out of the industry. You have to care for your self and put your health first by avoiding dangerous, unhealthy, stressful work environments because no one else will when you are burnt out and injured.

    Don't bother calling me a selfish, bitter person, because I already know that; nursing does that to you. We go into the industry caring, hoping we can make things better for others and end up hating our jobs, colleagues and patients because no one gives a damn about us. If you don't like my attitude then change yours. Stop thinking of nurses as people with never-ending compassion, whom you can treat like shit because they were born to care always will. The truth is we are humans, not angelic creatures answering our heavenly call. We feel, we think, we hurt, and we have limits, because we are people, just like you!
  134. Lets all be real here, nurses.

    To the person belittling other departments such as xray, lab, etc., maybe your high and mighty attitude of looking down on them is the reason they hate you.

    To the ones complaining of lifting, bathing, keeping patients dry, etc. This is what CNA's do. I was considering going into nursing, a friend who is an LPN, advised I work as a CNA a while before going into nursing. I did. I was mortified. RN's especially should stop complaining about doing these tasks as they NEVER DO IT! They sit at the nurses station delegating duties to CNA's and LPN's. I would like to say RN's treat CNA's worse than they treat LPN's but the fact is, they are horrible to LPN's and don't consider them "real" nurses. They totally ignore CNA's as if they don't even exist, which to me was preferable after seeing the treatment LPN's endured. CNA's are the ones with the most patient contact, they are the ones answering the call lights for things like turning up tv's, finding a blanket, etc. Most patients are just bored and lonely and need some human contact. CNA's fill that need.

    As a CNA I learned quickly if I needed help lifting a patient, or bathing a patient, or ANYTHING, my best bet was to ask an LPN, since they don't feel they are too good to do these things.

    Needless to say, my job as a CNA didn't last even a year. It was horrible. I didn't mind the patients. What I did mind was being questioned as to why I spent so much time with each patient, when we really only needed to pay special attention to patient A, F and G because their families visit regularly, the others just do the basics as they have no family visiting. I thought that was appalling.

    I chose a different career path. Thank Goodness.

    Nurses, your nasty attitudes show. Patients see it, their families see it, other hospital employees see it. There are plenty of young graduates to take your place, consider a career change and let the newer nurses you look down on who actually still care take your place. At least until they burn out, find new careers, and pass the hat to the newer nurses waiting in line behind them.

    Some nurses actually love their jobs. They knew what was involved before they went into it. These are the ones that have what it takes to be a nurse. It is a thankless job. I will give you that much. But aren't most jobs these days thankless? Do you think you are alone?
  135. Hi Miss AMAZED all American CAN or at least that's where I assume you come from. You see I'm in Australia and we aren't fortunate enough to have CAN's and LPN's. In our hospitals we do have PSA's (Patient Service Attendants), but you're lucky if you get one PSA per ward. Consequently there's not enough of them to lift patients, therefore it's the RN's that do all the patient care in Australian hospitals. The PSA's hand out meals, wash beds and mop floors. You talk about RN's being bitches toward CAN's and LPN's (whatever that stands for), yet you have the audacity to call me a liar when you have no idea how our health system works; that's pretty bitchy on your part isn't it. I can assure you that I never sat at a nurses station delegating tasks when I worked as an RN, because there wasn't anyone to delegate the tasks to. You can easily find out if I am telling the truth by contacting the injured nurses support group, but don't forget I've been out of the system since 1999. Hey! I'm even happy to post my court transcript over the internet, if it will make people aware of the dangers of nursing.

    Now where is your evidence about your claims? You call me a liar and expect me to believe your claims and have some compassion for you. That's asking a bit too much! Isn't it?
  136. Sorry it's CNA's not CAN's, still you crap on so much (talk a load of shit in other words) CAN is more fitting Miss AMAZED. Get it can as in dunny can which means toilet. You are full of shit Miss AMAZED. Do your homework next time before you accuse others of lying.
  137. Australian nurse, first off, I was not even referring to you as I do not live in Australia.

    My comments about nursing here in America and the tier system (CNA, LPN, RN) remains my opinion through personal experience.

    Why so defensive?
  138. Your comments about CNA/CAN illustrate my point nicely. The way RN's feel about any other level of nursing staff.

    Your co workers see your nast attitude as do your patients and their families.

    It's always nice when someone so eloquently proves your point for you.
  139. AMAZED, if you want to accuse other people of lying about their experiences then they have every right to attack your statement. Now let's see just how honest you are.

    On the 11-13-2005 at 03:53 AM I posted the following statement: “It's hard to treat people properly in a system that constantly cuts back on staff and equipment, has you running from ward to ward for basic things … (so that you can keep your patients dry and clean), etc. … Next comes the Morning showers, baths, or washes … I was bullied and abused by the other nurses, because I needed help lifting patients”

    Then on the 11-13-2005 at 06:01 PM you wrote: “To the ones complaining of lifting, bathing, keeping patients dry, etc. This is what CNA's do. …. RN's especially should stop complaining about doing these tasks as they NEVER DO IT!”

    After I pointed out how rude you were and that you talk a load of shit, you claim on the 11-14-2005 at 12:54 AM: “Australian nurse, first off, I was not even referring to you as I do not live in Australia. My comments about nursing here in America and the tier system (CNA, LPN, RN) remains my opinion through personal experience. Why so defensive?”

    Point 1: If as you stated on the 11-14-2005 at 12:54 AM, your were not referring to me, then why did you indirectly quote me on the 11-13-2005 at 06:01 PM when you said “To the ones complaining of lifting, bathing, keeping patients dry, etc.?

    You do realised that your posting is directly under the one I posted on the 11-13-2005 at 03:53 AM In which I wrote: “running from ward to ward for basic things … (so that you can keep your patients dry and clean), etc. … Next comes the Morning showers, baths, or washes … I was bullied and abused by the other nurses, because I needed help lifting patients”

    Point 2: On the 11-14-2005 at 12:57 AM: you typed: “Your comments about CNA/CAN illustrate my point nicely. The way RN's feel about any other level of nursing staff. Your co workers see your nast attitude as do your patients and their families. It's always nice when someone so eloquently proves your point for you”

    Are you insane?
    1st I put a post up stating (among other things), that as an RN I had been flat out doing various tasks including lifting, bathing, keeping patients dry, etc.
    2nd you claim RN's don't do these jobs and shouldn't claim that they do.
    3rd I point out that you don't know what you are talking about and you need to do your homework because what you are saying is crap (in other words your full of shit).
    4th You then claim that you were not referring to me when you indirectly quoted me.
    5th You state that because I said you talk shit, I have proved your point that RNs dislike other levels of nursing.
    6th To top it off you claim my co workers see my nasty attitude as do my patients and their families.

    The facts are:
    1) You haven't been to Australia.
    2) You have never worked with me, so you wouldn't have a clue how my co workers, patients and their families viewed me;
    3) I don't nurse anymore.
    4) Amazed, CNA's aren't the problem, you are.
    5) You like to make up bullshit about people and argue with them.


    For your own sake, get a life! You'll drive your self and everyone around you mad.

    Now I am going to ignore you, because you aren't worth arguing with.
  140. ***Hey sweetie, you reek of whatever crappy ancillary department you work in. Go back to your little x ray tech job, or physical therapy gig... one of the ones that you picked because the thought of feces was way too yucky for you to handle... and bitch about nurses some more. It's pretty sad that your general hatred of nurses is so all consuming that you even once decided to Google "I hate nurses".****

    This is actually what I was responding to, and countless other threads on this forum. I don't recall ever calling anyone a liar, but it is my experience that RN's do not perform tasks like bathing, lifting, fetching blankets, etc. They chart and order meds.

    I said once and will say again, I do not live nor do I work in Australia, I am no longer a CNA as people like you made me well aware nursing was not a job I could deal with and chose another career path, and again, you are very much on the defensive.

    If having CNA's and LPN's to assist you does not apply to you, then it stands to reason my whole comment would not apply to you.

    Get a grip. Everything is not a personal attack.
  141. SWEET, dude thats totally awesome, i believe every word of it. SYKE .............dont be an idiot
  142. Quote:
    Originally posted by bob
    high roller? sounds more like a low-life. get a grip on reality you dumb shit. you said we all have the right to say what we want, but as soon as someone (me) says something you dont like, you cry and moan like the little bitch you are. you are the definition of loser.-----how ya like them apples!
    ARE U A NURSE?
  143. Amen. Nursing SUCKS. Its the worst job ever. Word to the wise: try to get a job at a Dr's office. Good hours, nice people. There ARE good doctors out there and decent people to work with. You have to look really hard, and turn over is low becuse people hold on to these jobs after having crappy jobs in nursing homes and hospitals. Keep the faith and keep looking. Thank God I found a good Dr to work for and a great group of coworkers. I was loosing faith in the human race as a whole after working at a horrible nursing home. I have given my family orders to give me a lethal dose of medication before EVER putting me in a nursing home!!!!
  144. I used to be a pretty happy, laid back person. Now I am a miserable nervous wreck. I directly attribute it to nursing. I have been an RN for almost 2 years and I hate it more than I could ever say. It is the worst thing I have ever decided to do in my life. I was naive.... I wanted to help sick people and work with other nice/kind/caring people. Well, nursing school first clued me into the fact that I wouldn't be working with people like that, then working after I finished school really let me know what kind of people I would actually be working with. I have worked with a very small number of awesome, kind, wonderful nurses. Sadly, I have worked with a huge number of evil fucking bitches, some of the nastiest, two-faced c^nts I have ever met in my life. I work my ass off every time I go to work...... do I get any kind of recognition for it? In my lovely unionized workplace, do I get any kind of reward for being hard-working? No! I get to see the lazy, horrible senior nurses earning more than me for doing less work, purely for the fact that they're older than me. I get shit from every direction - my bosses, hospital administrators, patients, families, doctors, other staff. I get two-faced bitch co-workers, who are shitty at their job and lazy as fuck, anonymously reporting me to my boss for any little thing that I do wrong, even some stuff that they make up!!! And my fucking manager falls for it every time and I get shit, along with no opportunity to defend myself. I try and be nice to everyone, while the evil little trolls that I work with sit around on their lazy asses being bitches to everyone, and I get labelled a "negative influence on staff morale"!!!! Fuck you!!!!!! I work my ass off for my patients, fore-going breaks, coming in early, leaving late, just to take good care of my patients, and what do I get for it? SHIT!!!!!!!! Something needs to be done for a patient, yet everyone claims that "it's not my job". Someone has to fucking do it!!!! So, who gets stuck with it? Me! I always tell people what my job description as a nurse is: I do whatever no one else wants to do. That's my job. And generally it involves a lot of thankless fucking work. I never leave my home anymore because I suffer from massive anxiety.

    You know what I'm going to do from now on? The absolute minimum, just like all the other bitches that I work with. Why the fuck should I work myself to death, when no one else bothers to do it? I'm going to be like all of the other lazy bitches I work with - do the absolute minimum amount of work that I can, just to get by, and make complaints to management about all the other nurses. Why should I work hard? I don't get any recognition for it. My patients, god love them, bitch and complain no matter how much I do for them. And doing nothing seems to be the professional thing for nurses to do right now, so I'm going to act like everyone else! Why break my back anymore? I'm not going to do it. I arrive exactly when I start getting paid, I leave when I stop getting paid, I do the bare minimum I can get away with, and I'm not doing everyone else's job anymore. I'm doing my job and that is it. And as soon as I can get out of this hellhole of a 'career', and away from all the nasty bitches, I'm gone!!!
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