Nursing is the worst career in the world…..air force to male nurse

Before I was a nurse I was in the Air Force. I did it for 20 years. After I left my Air FOrce career I felt like I wanted to help people.I was a highly trained Air Force Operations guy. I figured I was in wars, had done alot of stressful shit in my day. A real mans man. Now I feel like I am a beat down old used up worthless human.

Let me tell you my story and if you cant see my point then you are surely blind or are not a nurse. Well, one day I was in the Air Force. Wearing a flight suite. Getting laid. taveling the world. Basically, getting treated like royalty because I was an aviator. Well, I retire and go to the VA to apply for educational benefits. I have no formal training that can be transferred to civilian life. I have a wife to support. So I go talk to the VA guy. He makes me take this battery of tests. The next thing I know he says. Have you ever thought about nursing? I think to myself. HMMMM. Is this guy serious? So i take some pamphlets for the local college. I apply and get accepted. I have the GI bill it pays for nearly all my classes. THings are pretty good. I like the University classes and the atmosphere of a big campus. I struggled through the science classes I have to get tutors and study sometimes 16 hoursa day but i get through.

Finally, clinicals come. Im happier than a clam. FInally I see the light at the end of the tunnel. I do great in most of my clinicals. I love my instructors and they love me. Then its time for peds. I here the other students talking. You know, “WHatever you do, dont take proffesor so and so because she is harsh or doesnt understand…..” I am like, heck. Im a hard worker and can handle it. SO I pick this rotation with this proffesor with a bad reputation. She is known to send home students for showing up late for clinicals. Also, she is known for being a bra burning man hater. But I have had her in lecture and she seems easy to get along with. SO i decide that I can handle it.

ANyway, clinical goes good for the first week. Then she overhears me talking to some of my female classmates. We are all good buddies. I am joking in the Student Union with some female clssmates. We did get a little “off color”. But we were buds. Anyway, things go shitty. She pulls me aside and tells me thatshe doesnt like the way I was talking to the female students. I was receptive and told her that I would watch it in the future. I was given the most difficult patients in the fricking hospital. I was beaten down and scrutinized way beyond what the other female students were. So i dropped the class and retook. The warning signs should have gone up then but they didnt.

I figured this was just a bad experience. ANyway, I have no further trouble making it through. The rest of the instructors were kool. But I look back now to the sights and sounds of the floors during my clinicals. THey were all short on staff. Most of the nurses were the walking dead. They were working 12s or more. SOme with no weekends off. “Mandatory overtime” I saw this one nurse go ballistic on the floor and just stand up and scream and then just break down and cry. She had her head in her hands. “I cant take this anymore.” She was prostrate. Crying sobbing. My instructor was standing with all of our little student nurses. I said, “Why dont you go over and talk to her.” She said, “THat nurse is a discipline problem. Im going to make sure she is gone by the end of the day.”

She went to the nearest phone and called the Nurse Administrator. THe nurse admin came down and sternly said, “go to your locker and get your stuff. Ill get your time card. I want you out of this building now.” No one acknowledged her, No one put a hand on this poor womens shoulder. She couldnt have been over 35 but she looked like she was 100. Where was the compassion for our own here? Anyway, this should have awoken me to this hell. BUt is didnt. So I graduate and think hmmmmmm. I will try circulating. Those ORs are like assembly lines. Backstabbing, backbiting. Hate. No compassion to the staff. No understanding that we are not robots. I get burned out and try another line of nursing. Still, they hate eachother. I tried several times to get the nuses together for a beer or to shoot pool. But we are so damned tired. I mean BONE NUMBInG EMOTIONALY DEAD TIRED. No one wants to. BEsides, Ive seen the females set there and backstabeach other. whispering to each other at the charting station. “That Bitch. She thinks she is so damned hot…etc etc etc. Then the next minute they are with the “bitch” and talking about their husbands and giggling. I pissed off my supervisor one day for losing my tempor.

I quit. Now I am just fed up. I have no idea what the future holds for me. I was a nurse for 4 years. I dont want anything to do with it anymore. What is all this crap about it being a proffesion. Heck, we get trated like meat. I worked in a hospital that wouldnt give staff nurses raises unless they took classes, or did some other “self improvement” BS. We couldnt because we were so damned tired and we had families who needed us. They wouldnt give us a raise. Nurses were quitting left and right because of this but they would pay all of these travelors nearly double our saleries plus room and board. I never understood this. On some days there were 50% travelors. Hell, Id rather suck shit through a straw then be a nurse.

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  1. I see by your "story" you are one of the many that don't understand what being a Nurse really means. Like yourself, many have entered the Nursing Profession lately for all the wrong reasons. I truly believe it is a calling, not just a job someone may think they will try or because it's in demand & they think it's a quick easy buck. I have been a Nurse for 32 years & my husband one for 15. I always knew I wanted to take care of people, it was a second nature to me. I've been around long enough to do all the crap jobs, but caring for people, no matter where they are...ICU, Long Term Care, Newborn Nursery.... is innate & you either have it or you don't.
    I suggest if someone is considering entering the Nursing Profession, they need to look within themself & ask if they can accept the responsibility of this wonderful Profession.
  2. I don't have to read your entire comment to feel for you. I'm not a nurse but I feel like shit all the time too. I don't mean to sound cold, but get over it friend. I've worked for the Army for the last nine years and I'm tired too. Back-track to Air Force and it's seventeen years. The work is fairly easy. It's the cronyism, apathy and abuse that's tiring. The WORLD does this to us. So I'll repeat... GET OVER IT. No one in the military CARES!!!
  3. I hear you my friend!!

    Nursing blows!!

    -male RN
  4. Good for you tha tyou decided ot get out of this hellacious bash-each-other profession. I tried to com eup with programs that would improve morale and regain nurse credibility and recognition, but an old nurse up the chain bashedmy ideas saying I was out to save the world. Now, guess who's stole my ideas and is trying to implement them to get Lt Col in the Air Force??? This is an eat-shit world where no one cares about one another. I hope they think about this on their death beds.
  5. Yeah man I feel for you. I am a navy nurse and have actually had a good experience. Our "senior nurse exectutive" loathed male nurses, so she stuck all of us together on the same ward. It was freaking great. It drove her crazy that we were all happy up there. There was no back stabbing, no meetings that lasted longer than 15 mins, and no rivalries. Report on all patients was done in 10 to 15 mins tops. If you needed a day off, someone would always switch, and most importantly you didnt have to worry about the previous shift leaving all sorts of shit for you to clean up, if we needed to stay and help for a bit we did and didnt bitch about it. If something was broken we fixed it. We didnt form a fucking committee to determine what kind of office supplies or adult diapers we should get! The problem, at least from my military experience, is that it is still dominated by men-hating women that haven't taken care of a patient in 10-15 years. I am sure this is much worse in the civilian community but at this naval hospital us "murses" stick together. 90% of us are prior enlisted so we know what its like to work hard for no money. Hell, at least now we get 0-3 pay! Its the dinosaur women that begin to resemble men you have to look out for. My wife is a nurse too and I cant believe all the petty bullshit she has to put up with. Lucky for her she is really good at what she does, she just flat out tells coworkers, administration or doctors what she thinks. Its pretty funny actually. As for the navy job itself, its not bad and its not great. Probably just like any job. sure you can feel overwhelmed at times but if you have good coworkers (ie not a bunch of lazy, bitchy women) 12 hours go by pretty quick and you end up with some golfing buddies. I know at some point it will be shitty again but I want that retirement that you already have plus they are paying for my PNP. I dont plan on nursing after my military career, maybe just do the PNP thing for a while or go back and become a teacher so i can have summers off with the kids.
  6. the absolute truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  7. Quote:
    Originally posted by Unregistered
    I see by your "story" you are one of the many that don't understand what being a Nurse really means. Like yourself, many have entered the Nursing Profession lately for all the wrong reasons. I truly believe it is a calling, not just a job someone may think they will try or because it's in demand & they think it's a quick easy buck. I have been a Nurse for 32 years & my husband one for 15. I always knew I wanted to take care of people, it was a second nature to me. I've been around long enough to do all the crap jobs, but caring for people, no matter where they are...ICU, Long Term Care, Newborn Nursery.... is innate & you either have it or you don't.
    I suggest if someone is considering entering the Nursing Profession, they need to look within themself & ask if they can accept the responsibility of this wonderful Profession.
    A calling to what? The gates of HELL.
  8. Quote:
    Originally posted by Unregistered
    I don't have to read your entire comment to feel for you. I'm not a nurse but I feel like shit all the time too. I don't mean to sound cold, but get over it friend. I've worked for the Army for the last nine years and I'm tired too. Back-track to Air Force and it's seventeen years. The work is fairly easy. It's the cronyism, apathy and abuse that's tiring. The WORLD does this to us. So I'll repeat... GET OVER IT. No one in the military CARES!!!
    Don't open your mouth, cause you talk shit fuck wit. The Air Force is a breeze compared to nursing, so is the Army.
  9. Quote:
    Originally posted by Unregistered
    A calling to what? The gates of HELL.
    No. A mental and physical breakdown, plus an early death.
  10. If it's broken fix it. Do whatever you have to: strike, quit so that there is a huge age of nurses, expose what's going on in the industry (but not in a bitchy way), and stick together so that you can fix the bloody problem. Otherwise just get out and save your self. You have the power to change it, if you work together. Force the government to listen, by joining forces and working as a team for changes that are much needed.
  11. A huge shortage of nurses sounds good. The government would have to listen to them.
  12. Quote:
    Originally posted by Unregistered
    No. A mental and physical breakdown, plus an early death.
    Some fuc_ing calling that is. I hope God doesn't call me into nursing. And it smells like shit. It's a one-way ticket to hell alright!
  13. I am now working in nursing and I agree that it is not what I want. I was a teacher for 9 years and it wasn't what it was cracked up to be either. There are too many people in charge of others that think they should rule and stomp anyone who doesn't bow down and kiss their asses, especially when they're wrong. These people can be found in any kind of job, and when that happens, the whole profession will be Hell on Earth! I feel for you and I agree that nursing is a profession that needs a lot of changing. So is teaching. Knowing what I know now about teaching, if I had young children, I would not want to send them to most public schools.
  14. Quote:
    Originally posted by Unregistered
    I see by your "story" you are one of the many that don't understand what being a Nurse really means. Like yourself, many have entered the Nursing Profession lately for all the wrong reasons. I truly believe it is a calling, not just a job someone may think they will try or because it's in demand & they think it's a quick easy buck. I have been a Nurse for 32 years & my husband one for 15. I always knew I wanted to take care of people, it was a second nature to me. I've been around long enough to do all the crap jobs, but caring for people, no matter where they are...ICU, Long Term Care, Newborn Nursery.... is innate & you either have it or you don't.
    I suggest if someone is considering entering the Nursing Profession, they need to look within themself & ask if they can accept the responsibility of this wonderful Profession.
    You must be on some good drugs honey!! I hate those holier than thou nurses, who act like nursing is such a great job, really they are martyrs who shit on everyone else for expecting a little more from life!! I have been a nurse for a long time too and went into it for the right reasons!!
  15. Sorry Bro,

    Sounds like a shitty time with a capital Shit. I've been a Murse for quite a while and it got a lot better after the first three years. I now have a sweet job, work with mostly men so the bitchy backstabbing shit isn't as frequent. I don't blame you for a second for leaving. I think I just got lucky or something. My job is so cool I actually don't mind overtime and I do do clinical hands on nursing if any naysayers are wondering. If you do go back t nursing give the ED a try, you might find it a little more satisfying and the nurses down there usually are too busy to be bitchy to each other,,OR NOT.
  16. Ok, I have done just about every crap job out there! I have been inside grease vents longer than 200 yard to clean them for hours with just enough room to wriggle your way onward. Been a blue shirt in the Navy (for those who have been there you know what i am talking about) in the winter on the Korean Sea. Sat on the aft end of the flight deck in the Persian Gulf sucking in all the exhaust fumes from all the aircraft preparing to launch 160° in the shade for 16-18 hours shifts and you have to eat before and after work. Ok ok ok, not going to go on, but you get the point. I have been abused. I am not sure of what hellacious hospitals you guys have been working at, but nursing ain't too shabby! Dude, your in a air conditioned environment, you get lunch, you get paid by the hour, they always have fresh coffee, you can alway get overtime. Yea, there be some bitches in the profession, but tell me what profession doesn't have them? When you can tell me that, I guess I am ready to die cuz I will have then heard it all. Here is some words if wisdom for all that feel that the job is too hard or "crappy"
    DON'T TAKE IT PERSONAL!
    Serious guys/girls, what the hell, if someone wants to talk behind someone elses back, screw it, who gives a rats ass? Hell you can even have fun with it like do some very odd action that will not compromise your employment but really get people talking about you, I have put myself in tear of laugher doing this, you should try it, but don't tell a soul what and why you are doing it.
    Additionally, screw being a staff nurse, agency is where it's at baby! I learned real quick in my career this point. When I first started, I noticed that during the tax season all the nurses were chit chatting at the nurses station about what they pulled in during the last tax year. Average staff nurse = $ 50 K Average agency = $ 100K Oh, but then you'll get the whole "Oh, but staff gets benefits!" LOL, what a load of crap, YOU REALLY BELIEVE THIS!
    Good God, think about the mutual funds/bonds/CD's and health insurance that you could buy OF YOUR CHOICE with and extra $50K
    Here is just an FYI for the nurse that believes that nursing sucks (which it does, but all jobs essentially suck so . . .) If the institution that you are employed at or are considering employment at has a lot of agency nurses or has 12 hours shifts, don't consider employment there! Why???? Cuz 12 hour shifts should be an option, not a mandation. 12 hours shifts were created, because the institution can employ less nurses (cuz no one wants to work there for whatever reason, but get the job there and you will see why shortly after) Hypothetically speaking: why would a hospital pay a agency nurse $50/hour and a staff nurse $25/hour? BECAUSE THE PLACE SUCKS and has trouble finding and keeping staff, what other reason is there? ??? there is a bizarre influx of pt's??? Come on people, open your eyes, it is never too late to learn.
    I am riding a gravy train here! Man, I sing and dance for my patients while giving the best nursing care anyone has to offer. Yeah, they think I am crazy, but they love every second of it, and request me everyday they are there, they drive for hours back to the hospital after they are "released into the wild" just to give me gifts and food. Hmmm, no one else that I work with seems to get these gifts. Wonder why? Because most of them are apathetic, complacent, hum-drum, hate their lives, hate their jobs, hate themselves, hate their pt's people.
    Guys, you can make a killing in this profession while having a hell of a time doing it. First, don't kill yourself doing 12's unless your like myself and have had serious crappy jobs before. Second, it is where you live, not the profession. Example: I would choose to live anywhere in the south, than somewhere in the North like MN, WI, IA, ND, SD, etc. Sorry if I offend anyone, but those peeps are butt heads! I lived up there for one year, and I felt like committing harry carry, even the supposed sweet little old ladies were a bunch of @)#%*. I wouldn't take a nursing job up there in the summer for $100 an hour! Come down south, maybe even to the dirty south, you will find Southern comfort here that you will definately appreciate! Hey, it is worth a try, don't let your nursing career be a sunk cost. Roll wit it baby, do what feels natural! And everyday say this prayer "God help me be the man my dog thinks I am!"
    -the Great White Big Nasty-
  17. You could always come back into the Air Force as a nurse...

    $20,000 bonus.

    SSgt Bernstein
    www.myspace.com/airforcenursing
  18. How is it that an Air Force Aviator, which means pilot, by the way, who retires after 20 goes into nursing? Did you retire a Major or a Lt Col? Why didn't you go fly for an airline? Most officer retirees or junior military officers go on to white collar jobs. Sounds fishy and you're hurting your credibility if you're exaggerating.

    Former Army Captain and current Medical Student
  19. It appears you were not an aviator, but the public thought you were one since you wore a flight suit, and therefore you used it to your benefit, and to deceive. I don't care, it hurt no one. Yea, it's hate city in many hospitals, and Nursing homes particularly if one is a male NA. After one and a half years of a NA in Nursing Homes where I was abused many a time by the staff, even having to threaten them with a letter that I would file a complaint, and thereafter for the next nine months they treated me like one of the girls, then I went to a vo-tech school to become a nurse, but the women there thought I was a Muslim, so in less than a month they concocted a bull story to have me removed. They broke the school / US laws of not discriminating due to religion, but since most were Nazi Catholic like Christians, then they could care less as it was “only one way” their way. I was, and am not a Muslim. I only support all those who believe in one God, so due to being enlightened on religious ideas they thought I was a Muslim. (I went to an attorney, but they said “Go to another vo tech school.” Sure, and then to another, and then another, or learn not to believe in the freedom of speech, and religion would be better. I learned a few years later that I needed to get a lawyer in another county, far away, as the local attorneys knew they would commit community / political suicide by destroying a local school. ) I mentioned that to support that they, the females, were already hateful people even before entering the nursing profession. They can hate me, or even kill me as I heard a number of them say: “Jesus forgives me.” I was already educated, having a BS in Physics, and a BS EE, and worked for years in industry, but just did NA, and then tried nursing to see if other job sectors were more loving. Stay with the boys in Engineering, and have fun, and respect is what I learned. The hogwash propaganda that we all hear often enough that nurses are loving had fooled me. There are some decent and kind nurses out there, but when the rest of Hell's legion of nurses are taking you down the others know they can not save you, or both will go to Davy Jones' locker.
  20. i have a phobia in nursing.... its very scary for me.... when i was still in nursing school , i feel like being in hell everytime i go in the nurses station...
  21. Try this experiment: Since wearing a flight suit works, this should do better: Get a job at another hospital, and apply as a female. Wear a wig, and a dress, also put on lipstick, so you look female, then work in that role for a while. Report back and tell us if you now love nursing.
  22. Excuse me Captain Hmmmmm, Sir, nursing is not a blue collar job! I cannot believe you belittled the job by calling it a blue collar job! That is what is wrong with this world. People love to degrade others so they can look big. Good luck in civilian life. You should learn to show some respect for others!
  23. Making Blue collar, or white collar distinctions is like making male or female distinctions. When does this ever end, in the year 2525?
  24. Quote:
    Originally posted by Unregistered
    I see by your "story" you are one of the many that don't understand what being a Nurse really means. Like yourself, many have entered the Nursing Profession lately for all the wrong reasons. I truly believe it is a calling, not just a job someone may think they will try or because it's in demand & they think it's a quick easy buck. I have been a Nurse for 32 years & my husband one for 15. I always knew I wanted to take care of people, it was a second nature to me. I've been around long enough to do all the crap jobs, but caring for people, no matter where they are...ICU, Long Term Care, Newborn Nursery.... is innate & you either have it or you don't.
    I suggest if someone is considering entering the Nursing Profession, they need to look within themself & ask if they can accept the responsibility of this wonderful Profession.
    Didn't I just read this post on another thread?
  25. Get over yourself! What is it that people think nursing is "cracked up" to be, anyway?? Anyway who is at all intelligent knows when getting into the field of nursing that there is dirty work involved. I've been a nurse for 3 yrs now, work full time nights in a Level 1 trauma center, and I honestly love my job. We have an equal ratio of male to female nurses, and I honestly don't care who I work with, because I trust and respect the majority of our nurses.

    So yea, if you want to make easy money for no work, join a different field.
  26. You should have become a nurse in the airforce. You would have had a decent rank, and the atmosphere is supposedly a lot better than civilian floors. I'm really considering AF...
  27. I hope I never have to work for your ass. Some doctor you'll make.
  28. I'm a male RN and I love it. A little hard work never hurt anybody.
  29. I get seriously hacked off when I try to find a job in my area - most times the Scottish Borders dont exist - or else its the Kent Borders
    or even the whole of the Scottish operation .... why are these sites so crap ??
  30. First of all, this thread is classic for any male nurse and is utterly hilarious. Whenever I have a bad day I will surely come back and read these postings. Please allow me to introduce myself. My name is Jonathan and I am a "murse" in the neonatal ICU. I have been a murse since 2006 and prior to that I was an active duty Air Force medic for 10 years. When I got out of the military, I knew how shitty nursing was and decided against it initially. Common sense got the better of me and I decided that the career was bulletproof and that I already had a history with nursing so it would be an easy transition. Well, screw common sense. This career will kill you, physically and emotionally, and will suck the marrow out of your bones--guaranteed. I am now going for my master's in nursing administration so I can get into being an administrator or patient care manager making some loot. Screw all the nagging, back-biting, hormones, and other crap that happens on a ward or unit. Not for me, thanks. I would, however, like to correct the gentleman who was in Air Force Operations for 20 years. First of all, you were a "flyer" not an "aviator"--big difference. I, too, wore flight suits and got laid on a daily basis, but I was an aerovac medic. In fact, most people who wear flight suits are not pilots at all. If you were in Operations, you were probably a PJ, a Controller, or a host of other jobs, but not a PILOT. You can save that story for the juicy bars in the red light districts .
  31. Thanks for sharing your story. I'm about to go to college and i'm deciding on what career I want but after reading all these nursing horror stories I know i'm not going to take nursing lol.
  32. As prior military and a nurse, I more than see your point.

    Many of us have said that there is more hate and viciousness in nursing than in any of our military training.

    Nursing has gotten so bad because it is, for lack of a better term a "Bitch's Job". Most nurses are females who support an entire household and it's the furthest education they can attain. No female would bite the corrupt hand that feeds and let her family go hungry, so for generations we have taken it.

    All of this "what it means to be a nurse" is designed to make overworked females feel better about their horrible jobs.

    Florence Nightengale, who we are brainwashed to worship, was little more than a drug-crazed slut who decided to put two and two together.

    I believe you had the nerve to post this because you are NOT a desperate female.

    I think, instead of going to nursing school and letting megalomaniac instructors destroy what is left of her self-esteem, joining the military is a better option. At least you will be built back up after the basic training breaks you down.
  33. I'm the only male nurse in a facility that employs about 80+ nurses. I have been working in a clinical setting for 16 years and work part time in a nursing home for 25 years. I was hoping to get an advancement as a supervisor, but no such luck. I was turned down twice at my clinical nursing position and also by this nursing home. I have kept copies every evaluation I have ever been given which have been excellent, even with supervising other nursing personnel (LPN, nursing assistants). Each time I was turned down, these two positions were given to women with only 1-2 years of nursing, only a ADN degree. I'm sorry but this has left me quite bitter. My job at my clinic job includes ordering supplies and restocking which requires me to left 50 pounds boxes. Do I get help, NO. They think that because I'm a man that excuses them for not helping, even if I ask for help. At the nursing home job, I have actually been called into a resident's room to help with turning and lifting, which I don't mind except I'm in the middle of passing meds which slow my work down. All of this has unfortunately left me with degenerative disc disease in my L4-L5 and S1. I kept working in spite of having 3 back surgeries, but I had to stop working last month because of the pain and will probably have to filled for disability. Please don't get me wrong, I love nursing. I have always thought of it as a calling, but I getting burned out. The only time my female employees have anything to say about male nurses is that it was not fair that males don't have to wear caps. How about our @#$ing work.
  34. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    I see by your "story" you are one of the many that don't understand what being a Nurse really means. ..... I always knew I wanted to take care of people, it was a second nature to me. I've been around long enough to do all the crap jobs, but caring for people, no matter where they are......I suggest if someone is considering entering the Nursing Profession, they need to look within themself & ask if they can accept the responsibility of this wonderful Profession.
    You can cover the truth with all glorious words in the world. It will not change the reality: nursing is dirty, backstabbing, disrespected, exhausting profession. It will consume you whole; chew your bones and then through you away like an used diaper. Especially you can feel it fully in hospitals.
    People, who think about going to nursing, DON’T! For your own sake – DON’T! Everything that had been written in the first post is TRUE!!!!
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