Boston local 103 IBEW the worst union

The Boston IBEW is NOT really a union -more like a pyramid scheme – have the apprentices enter into the school system and work much harder for much less pay. When they complete the training (JATC), they get laid off and end up in a less than honest referral system. If they refuse to “suck up” they’ll be there for ever – stuck on the “list”. Or they can travel for life on “the road.” Besides, you’re more likely to quit too…those members forfeit their pension credits. That is the idea, come in get deposits into the pension fund, then encourage them to drop out before they get vested. Some of these guys leave more than one hundred thousand dollars when the leave if they do not get vested that is.

But not me, I enjoy exposing them for what they are. Corrupt “career labor leaders.”

Real unions don’t force other members into pension breaks – while putting their family over to the Boston Globe & Harvard University maintenance department for life -even though they have very low IQs.

Also, real unions have strikes. What union has a 108 year history of never going on strike? None, actually. The Boston IBEW and NECA are just a corrupt synergy.

Voting is central to a democracy. If you can not vote, then society is more like an “order.” So look into the Boston IBEW and see how many of their leaders are either appointed (just think of Jane Swift), or self-appointed (like ML Carr). IN both cases, we got a sh*t deal.

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  1. hey
  2. You're absolutely right ! BUT,...Local #103 is not the only I.B.E.W. local posing as a union while behaving like an old fashioned con game. Try almost any one of them. NOT all of them but almost all of them are hollow shells , hardly recognizable as unions except that they occasionally ( rarely ) use the "word " . Anyone who thinks otherwise is in a state of self-induced delusion. Try the word "workshare" at your I.B.E.W. local and watch all the " brothers " get real quiet. They are a sad sack excuse for a union. I know . I am a foolish member of an I.B.E.W. local.
  3. Another IBEW "brother" chiming in to say that I agree. Maybe this will make you feel better though. I'm a member under the Sound Agreement. Lets face it. The only reason I'm even in the union is to fill the pockets of those fat cats that drive the fancy new cars down at the hall. Man I feel like a sucker. Honest truth here. When I joined the IBEW, I attended the monthly meetings at the hall. That is until I tried to voice my "original" thoughts. We'll I don't have to tell you what my other brothers said to me in the parking lot. What a bunch of sell out, wanabees!

    Benifits, retirement, company vehicle. Believe me it can be obtained outside of the politically corrupt unions, you just have to work. Unfortunately that isn't what the good ol union sparkys want to do. It just so happens that developers and generals have had enough of paying for coffee breaks and whinning laborers.

    No sweat though. I'm walking in a few weeks. Yeah, non-union and in charge of my own destiny. The REAL American way!
  4. sounds like you should have worked a little harder. and your right there is patronidge in 103. but tell me that interstate or griffin doesnt have the same shit going on. hey i came out of my apprenticeship and got layed off the i went on the road and came back to 103 and i have worked there and always been on the outside of the hall suck ups and i have worked steady. it helps if you work hard and take pride in your work. and there are to many guys that think they dont have to work hard and thats were the problem lies. and i support the solicit system because there is to damn much dead weight.
  5. the jerk off who posted this forum is a liar no one looses the pension plan. which is a defined benifit and it takes 5 years to vest in that plan you ASSHOLE! next the ANNUITY PLAN you vest in it instantly you FUCK HEAD! and members can terminate the the plan after being out of work in the jurisdiction after 90 days! it your money and if you want to PISS IT AWAY GO FOR IT LOOSER! AND BY THE WAY ASSHOLE LOCAL 103 INSURES IT OUT OF WORK MEMBERS! IN SOME CASES FOR 3 FUCKING YEARS YOU ASSHOLE . GET YOUR FACTS SRAIGHT. YOU NEED TO BE BACK IN THE NONUNION WORLD. IN FACT YOUR PROBABLY A LOUSY ELECTRICIAN TO BEGIN WITH AND LOCAL 103 NEEDS TO GET RID OF THE LAYABOUTS LIKE YOUR SELF. THANK GOD THAT WE CAN SOLICIT OUR OWN JOBS BECAUSE OF THE LAZY MOTHER FUCKER THAT HAVE DRUG THE UNION DOWN. AND BE THE WAY THE FLE'S ARE NO HELP EITHER EVER MEET A NEW FLE BROTHER THAT IS NOT A JUNKIE THEY ARE THE DREGGS OF THE IBEW. DONT GIVE THEM MONEY FOR THEIR FELLOW JUNKIE BRO'S
  6. why doesn't anybody sign there name?
  7. Ya, why doesn't anyone sign there name. LMAO.
    Greg
  8. OOOPs sorry about that, won't let that happen again.
    G
  9. i agree the fles are a bunch of miss guided fools. and back in the day they where great craftsmen and trade unionists. but they are now a bunch of white trash ,drug induced, lets not give a rats ass about an honest days work, white male jerk offs. that dont want to do what henry miller founded! they are realy hippocrits! and how many dont pay taxes! and yet organized labor ask tax payers to pay union wages on goverment projects and these assholes dont want to pay taxes! funny how that works! kinda like a guy who drives a mazda while working at a ford motor company plant! think about it BRO!
  10. heys sounds like wayne griffin finally figured out how to post a wed site. listen , heres the deal. dont listen to the clown who posted this site. take it from me , im a new member. this union has changed my entire life style. i went from under class the middle class the night i was sworn in. this summer i took two weeks off for a vacation i cfould afford.why dear god do you non union guys sell your selfs short, oh wait a min, its not selling your self short , its called the merit shop mantality, hey when i was salting constar, i got the biggest kick out of the way the rats all threw each other under the bus. talk about kissing ass. anyway why dont those of you who have the gutts it take to salt come to our hall. we need a few good me.

    p.s


    the sad part is that most likely this one of the dead beats from our own local who needs a beating
  11. You are an uneducated, ignorant asshole. You have no idea as to what our Business Manager, and his agents have done for not only us, but for our community, and some of them are working seven days a week on their own time. For whatever reason you are disgruntled, I would be willing to bet that it is your own doing, you ought to look in to the mental health area of your life. The people that run local 103 have one thing in mind, securing jobs for our membership, and helping contractors like myself to get those jobs, so that I can hire an asshole like you, and then you can come to work for me, spend more time complaining than working, and then sink the job. People like you think that it's everyone else's fault when the reality of it is, it is your fault. Believe it or not, and fortunately, most of our membership give 8 for 8. Those are the people that stay working, and those are the people that the contractor will go to any length to keep employed. Exactly what is it that you want from the people at 103? Should they ride bicycles to work, or pull up in some shitbox? The Crown Vic's that they drive are more than reasonable, and personally I would like to have them drive large SUV's with 4 wheel drive, so that they are able to safely visit any jobsite without getting stuck in mud, snow, etc. Our Business Manager starts his day very early, I have seen him on a jobsite at 5AM to speak with the men prior to their 6AM start. This is not unusual for him, and he ends his day very late. I can guarantee you that he works harder than anyone carrying a tool bag. The mental stress that he is under on a daily basis is extreme. The decisions that he makes akways has someone pissed off, and it is a job that he can have, and I would never want. Then, to top it off, there is an asshole like you spewing lies about Local 103, and the men and women that run it. Our trust fund administrator, and all of the people at the school work equally hard. All of these people that you know nothing about, and have the balls to make a general, and anonymous I might add, statement, full of lies, really disturbs me. You are the type of person that poisons a job site. You are like a cancerous tumor spreading your disease to others that are as equally uneducated as you. If you don't like it, change it. Vote! Obviously the majority of our membership see's what I see, the positive growth, dedication, hard work, and day to day dilligence of our elected officials that steer the ship on Freeport Street. The best thing you can do is follow your plan, go work non-union. You will be helping the union out by making us more competitive against any shop you work for. Personally, I don't go for anonymity. My name is Frank Kelly, and if you don't like what I said do something to change it. Come out from your spiderhole, get educated. You have people listening to you, it's what they are thinking about you that you should be concerned with. Local 103, and almost all unions are constantly scrutinized by the government, almost to the point of harassment. You are insane to even suggest the opinions that you have, and all of the other anonymous poison spreaders like yourself keep hiding. The men and women that run Local 103 can walk proud with their head up knowing the good that they do each day, and they will continue to fight for what is right, even for tumors like you.
  12. frank kelly is dead on! and union members should also check into salting the non union contractors! and telling fellow electricians about what local 103 can do for them and their familys. 103 has a medical insurrance program were there is no co-pay! and there are no SO CALLED MERIT SHOPS that offer that benifit. the fool who stared this forumneeds to be in the merit shop world he can suck all the cock in the world to keep his job. and im proud to say that durring the busy times of the mid to late 90's i voluntiered to go out and salt to organize non union electricians and tell them the good parts of the union and the bad parts. and on one project i help organize 20 non union electricians. that was out in aberdeen washington in 1999. and 3 of them have dropped out of the union, 2 of whom are drug addicts unfortunately. any non union electrician reading this post i strongly urge you to contact the organizers in local 103 and see if you are interested in what the union can do for you! AND FOR THE BITTER FOOL WHO STARTED THIS FORUM, REMEMBER ASSOLE ITS THE UNIONS WHO FIGHT TO KEEP PREVAILING WAGE LAWS ON THE BOOKS THAT YOU HAVE BENNIFITTED FROM! YOUR MERIT SHOP EMPLOYER IS TRYING TO GET RID OF THOSE LAWS! AND IF THE UNIONS STOP FIGHTING TO KEEP THOSE LAWS ON THE BOOKS. THE NON UNION ELECTRICIANS WILL SEE A BIG PAY CUT! TOMMY FULLER LOCAL 103 BOSTON MASS A FORMER NON UNION ELECTRICAN. AND 20 YEAR MEMBER OF 103 IBEW!
  13. The acting BM of LU 103 has never been out of work - ever. He made hundreds of thousands of dollars at Deer Island when 35% of the local was out of work.

    Today, he owns half of South Boston and mansion in Kingston. Ask him when the last time he even touched a piece of conduit was.

    BETTER YET, ASK HIM TO SHOW YOU AN UNEMPLOYMENT STUB!
  14. what a bunch of whinners,if you can't make a living doing bag work while you're out you're probley not a good electriacian anyway!ive put plenty of out of brother 's to work with me too.so stop whinning wait your turn and do the right thing
  15. I am a union member of Local 103 I.B.E.W and have been for the last few years of my apprenticeship.
    Yknow I just have to say that yes there are things that I see that I don't like going on in my union ,but the truth is there are aspects to what I see that I more than likely don't understand the intracacies of .Because I don't care to ...thats the truth ,I wish for someone to do it for me much like anyone in any job would rather appreciate thier position and work for thier earnings and job and have everything go smoothly.There are things that do concern me and when I can help I try to further my unions causes in whatever way I can .Not because I completely agree with thier politics (which they decided to back out of recently) or becasue thier beliefs cause I dont necessarily agree ,or because I think they are always the most just,every system has corruption and flaws.Every system.
    Our business agents my hats off to them do a job i don't think most people could possibly imagine.I have known Mike Monahan for years now and he only ever talks about the positive aspects of people and situations and certainly cares about every member above himself.That man works an amazing workload I couldn't possibly even concieve of.I have in the last few years seen the toll the stress has taken on this mans health ,as he greys and loses hair at an eccellerated rate you can see the toll the stress takes on him ,much like when a president goes through his term.So I owe him thanks beyond words .His pilot program of market recovery is one of the biggest brainchilds of this century and will go down in histroy im sure,pure genius hes even trying to save non union guys money just to oevrcome thier prejudcies and give them a chance to see that they are mistaken.To which often they have.
    I worked for rivers and talked personally to john alt he himself admitted we were skilled and intelligible workers ,but just couldnt go union because it would hurt his bottom line.
    I talked to electrical outsourcing companies who wanted to hire me becasue i was union if i kept my mouth shut,they liked my education and work but didnt want to give up thier extras.thats a fact
    Look any system is flawed we are human we make mistakes.At the union we are now if not ever and imnot sayin they weren't because I wasn;t around,but now more than ever about fixing mistakes clearing up misperceptions and educating people of thier prejudices .It's hard work there are still past "hauntings
    of the old mentality but things are changing.
    what people need to understand is its a process yeah I often think of leaving and so do many members but you knwo what I always here,"I stay for the benefits"
    there may be some clause where there is a balance of 100,000.00 left over if i leave early I dont know so now ill check it out thanks for the enlightenment.yknow what though I dont know of a better deal in town .I have looked I have worked non union ,I have worked union the union offers me the brightest future even when I am unemployed.yes we all sit out eventually .
    Rivers apprentices told me when they get thier license they are fired because they are worth more,thats no lie .
    Now I can say in 103 thats simply not true you are worth more.the union will help you start your own business ,get better higher education,go to college,an much more what other place will do that ,they dont have to ,they do .
    All I would say to someone who has a beef with them is simply this.
    Be upfront about it take your gripe to the hall ask questions not justonce stay in touch they want you ,they have admitted already that they regret the 80's of turning people away they want everyone to join so we all .ALL get a better deal the longer you stand alone the longer we all suffer .Look you suffer where you are to not enjoy our benefits,we suffer not having you (non union) because with you we all get better we go twice as high and you come along for the ride.How is there a down side to that,and if someone gets fat in the process who cares because yknow what we all win and someone else is gonna get fat while we suffer.
  16. I am a union member of Local 103 I.B.E.W and have been for the last few years of my apprenticeship. Yknow I just have to say that yes there are things that I see that I don't like going on in my union ,but the truth is there are aspects to what I see that I more than likely don't understand the intracacies of .Because I don't care to ...thats the truth ,I wish for someone to do it for me much like anyone in any job would rather appreciate thier position and work for thier earnings and job and have everything go smoothly.There are things that do concern me and when I can help I try to further my unions causes in whatever way I can .Not because I completely agree with thier politics (which they decided to back out of recently) or becasue thier beliefs cause I dont necessarily agree ,or because I think they are always the most just,every system has corruption and flaws.Every system.
    Our business agents my hats off to them do a job i don't think most people could possibly imagine.I have known Mike Monahan for years now and he only ever talks about the positive aspects of people and situations and certainly cares about every member above himself.That man works an amazing workload I couldn't possibly even concieve of.I have in the last few years seen the toll the stress has taken on this mans health ,as he greys and loses hair at an eccellerated rate you can see the toll the stress takes on him ,much like when a president goes through his term.So I owe him thanks beyond words .His pilot program of market recovery is one of the biggest brainchilds of this century and will go down in histroy im sure,pure genius hes even trying to save non union guys money just to oevrcome thier prejudcies and give them a chance to see that they are mistaken.To which often they have.
    I worked for rivers and talked personally to john alt he himself admitted we were skilled and intelligible workers ,but just couldnt go union because it would hurt his bottom line.
    I talked to electrical outsourcing companies who wanted to hire me becasue i was union if i kept my mouth shut,they liked my education and work but didnt want to give up thier extras.thats a factLook any system is flawed we are human we make mistakes.At the union we are now if not ever and imnot sayin they weren't because I wasn;t around,but now more than ever about fixing mistakes clearing up misperceptions and educating people of thier prejudices .It's hard work there are still past "hauntings of the old mentality but things are changing.what people need to understand is its a process yeah I often think of leaving and so do many members but you knwo what I always here,"I stay for the benefits"there may be some clause where there is a balance of 100,000.00 left over if i leave early I dont know so now ill check it out thanks for the enlightenment.yknow what though I dont know of a better deal in town .I have looked I have worked non union ,I have worked union the union offers me the brightest future even when I am unemployed.yes we all sit out eventually .
    Rivers apprentices told me when they get thier license they are fired because they are worth more,thats no lie .Now I can say in 103 thats simply not true you are worth more.the union will help you start your own business ,get better higher education,go to college,an much more what other place will do that ,they dont have to ,they do .All I would say to someone who has a beef with them is simply this.Be upfront about it take your gripe to the hall ask questions not justonce stay in touch they want you ,they have admitted already that they regret the 80's of turning people away they want everyone to join so we all .ALL get a better deal the longer you stand alone the longer we all suffer .Look you suffer where you are to not enjoy our benefits,we suffer not having you (non union) because with you we all get better we go twice as high and you come along for the ride.How is there a down side to that,and if someone gets fat in the process who cares because yknow what we all win and someone else is gonna get fat while we suffer.
  17. so if you dont like the way the business manger runs things . run for his seat! the guy who ran in may of 2005 didnt even campiagn! i think he just wanted a job at the globe! and as far as him owning half of south boston whats your point? so he's an asshole buy getting into real estate? your a fucking whiner! and tell me if your such a conduit man tell me how to do a reverse bend on a tripple nickle on a peice of 2" ridgid. the take up is 16" and the gain is 7" you have a stub 90 and want to make a back to back bend 80"s back to back, tell me where you make the mark from the back of the stub 90 to make this 80" back to back bend?
  18. Quote:
    Originally posted by Unregistered
    You are an uneducated, ignorant asshole. You have no idea as to what our Business Manager, and his agents have done for not only us, but for our community, and some of them are working seven days a week on their own time. For whatever reason you are disgruntled, I would be willing to bet that it is your own doing, you ought to look in to the mental health area of your life. The people that run local 103 have one thing in mind, securing jobs for our membership, and helping contractors like myself to get those jobs, so that I can hire an asshole like you, and then you can come to work for me, spend more time complaining than working, and then sink the job. People like you think that it's everyone else's fault when the reality of it is, it is your fault. Believe it or not, and fortunately, most of our membership give 8 for 8. Those are the people that stay working, and those are the people that the contractor will go to any length to keep employed. Exactly what is it that you want from the people at 103? Should they ride bicycles to work, or pull up in some shitbox? The Crown Vic's that they drive are more than reasonable, and personally I would like to have them drive large SUV's with 4 wheel drive, so that they are able to safely visit any jobsite without getting stuck in mud, snow, etc. Our Business Manager starts his day very early, I have seen him on a jobsite at 5AM to speak with the men prior to their 6AM start. This is not unusual for him, and he ends his day very late. I can guarantee you that he works harder than anyone carrying a tool bag. The mental stress that he is under on a daily basis is extreme. The decisions that he makes akways has someone pissed off, and it is a job that he can have, and I would never want. Then, to top it off, there is an asshole like you spewing lies about Local 103, and the men and women that run it. Our trust fund administrator, and all of the people at the school work equally hard. All of these people that you know nothing about, and have the balls to make a general, and anonymous I might add, statement, full of lies, really disturbs me. You are the type of person that poisons a job site. You are like a cancerous tumor spreading your disease to others that are as equally uneducated as you. If you don't like it, change it. Vote! Obviously the majority of our membership see's what I see, the positive growth, dedication, hard work, and day to day dilligence of our elected officials that steer the ship on Freeport Street. The best thing you can do is follow your plan, go work non-union. You will be helping the union out by making us more competitive against any shop you work for. Personally, I don't go for anonymity. My name is Frank Kelly, and if you don't like what I said do something to change it. Come out from your spiderhole, get educated. You have people listening to you, it's what they are thinking about you that you should be concerned with. Local 103, and almost all unions are constantly scrutinized by the government, almost to the point of harassment. You are insane to even suggest the opinions that you have, and all of the other anonymous poison spreaders like yourself keep hiding. The men and women that run Local 103 can walk proud with their head up knowing the good that they do each day, and they will continue to fight for what is right, even for tumors like you.
    Finally someone with an education on this this thread. I agree with everything you have just said. I think the problem with all of these complaints is they are coming from piss ignorant grunts or old men that have nothing better to do than bitch. As for everyone that works at the hall and school,Hats off. Everyone in the field bashes them because their not in a position to have or take their job. Yours too,Im sure your bashed out on the job site for the fact nobody thinks you work hard. Hats off to you brother, I know for a fact you work harder than anyone in the field.Ive worked along side someone in your position for a day and you couldnt pay me enough/not now anyway. Ill stick to my current job title for now/Jrnymn. Signed:Josh Weatherly Local 20 Fort Worth,Texas
  19. you want to know what fucked up the ibew? FLE sure had a hand in it! you now need a good drug connection to be a super bro! have not many that ever wanted to do a days work for a days pay! their sick and needy , is for them and the ocasional wireman!
  20. micheal monohan has increased union market share, brought in tons of new contractors and put more money in his members paychecks since he has took charge

    any non-union electricain in the boston area should really take a look at a journeyman in the local 103's paycheck and benefits package before they start patting themselves on the back because in reality you are just selling yourself short

    enjoy making much less money and having to be burdened with increasing health care cost and an ugly retirement package

    if you want to scab and be at the mercy of your employee like a spineless jellyfish then non-union is the way to go and you every right to be that way


    as for me i choose to go union because im smart enough to realize that collective bargaining is the most effective way to ink a contract and uniting with your fellow workers is the best way to gain political power and strenght

    we here at the 103 have a strong and powerfull voice in the community while the non-union electricians dont have much


    you can still make a choice, if you want more for you and your family..... dont be afraid to turn over your shop...do not sell yourself short
  21. to all of those who are downing 103 GO FUCK YOURSELF I'AM A 3RD GENERATION 103 MEMBER AND TO SEE WHAT I HAVE AND MY FAMLIY HAS GO WORK RAT AND GET THE FUCK OUT ITS PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO SHOULD NOT BE A PART OF ALL OF THIS!!!DONT LIKE IT GET OUT. SHIT I WAS OUT FOR 14 MONTHS AND TOTALLY COVERED MEDICALLY. YA TRY THAT NON-UNION I DONT THINK SO. 4 PENSION PLANS. BOTH MY FATHER AND GRAND FATHER HAVE NEVER BEEN OUT OF WORK IN 40 YRS OF SERVICE!!!!
  22. Quote:
    Originally posted by Unregistered11
    micheal monohan has increased union market share, brought in tons of new contractors and put more money in his members paychecks since he has took charge

    any non-union electricain in the boston area should really take a look at a journeyman in the local 103's paycheck and benefits package before they start patting themselves on the back because in reality you are just selling yourself short

    enjoy making much less money and having to be burdened with increasing health care cost and an ugly retirement package

    if you want to scab and be at the mercy of your employee like a spineless jellyfish then non-union is the way to go and you every right to be that way


    as for me i choose to go union because im smart enough to realize that collective bargaining is the most effective way to ink a contract and uniting with your fellow workers is the best way to gain political power and strenght

    we here at the 103 have a strong and powerfull voice in the community while the non-union electricians dont have much


    you can still make a choice, if you want more for you and your family..... dont be afraid to turn over your shop...do not sell yourself short
    You dumb fuck
    CANT EVEN SPELL MIKE MONAHAN RIGHT

    I am a 15 year member of 103
    And have never missed a day or have been unemployed

    IF YOU SHOW UP WORK HARD AND DO YOU FUCKING JOB
    YOU WILL HAVE NO PROBLEM

    IT IS THE LAZY DRUG RIDDEN AZZHOLES THAT 103 NEEDS TO GET RID OF

    I CANT TELL YOU HOW MANNY PEOPLE JOURNEYMAN AND APPRENTICES I HAVE HAD TO GET RID OF FOR NOT SHOWING UP AND DOING THERE FUCKING JOB !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    THE PROBLRM IS THIS NEXT GENERATION COMMING UP BEHIND US THING THAT THEY ARE OWED EVERYTHING
    THEY NEED TO EARN THE RESPECT AND LEARN LIKE WE HAVE DONE
  23. It seems that Brothers are "Divided" right down the middle on this subject. In fact, truth be told, both sides have made SOME good and acurate points.

    Yea, mention 'workshare" and see what you get. Workshare would mean that we all could get our fair share of work when things are slow, but that would mean that the "connected"
    would have to step aside like the rest of us and THAT simply won't do at all.

    And YEA, if you have the right connections, whether they be in the Hall or at a company, you are more likely to support the current system.

    Yea, it is awful strange that the average guy has to wait years and years to get on the T, or the Globe, and such, but the
    so-and-so familly seems to get those jobs while they are still young. That is corrupt whether you like it or not, and if you can'r admit that much you need to get real.

    It is easy as hell for the fat-cats to tell the rest of us that we have no right to work non union for a while to support our famillies while they enjoy the high rate of pay, what is it anyway? Some of them i think get General Foreman pay, 52 weeks a year, paid holidays and sick time. I'll tell you, as an apprentice a coulple years back, unemployed from the late great Mass Electric, it really hit home as the BM allowed us to see his screen save of him driving an expensive boat in his tanktop while telling us in so many words that we would be rats to work non union so our children would not have to loose the house we live in.

    But my biggest complaint is that the apprentice system SUCKS!
    After my first year at Mass Electric i came to Mr. Nigro and told him i was not learning shit and asked his to get me into a smaller company so that i could learn something useful. He flatly refused, telling me i should order my foremen to teach me? What a jerk.
    And this was while we still had travelers and walk through.
    He could have gotten me in another company easy as he pleased. And i was an "A" student too. Not some asshole kid that was no good.

    So, after 21/2 years of learning shit, really, they finally started teaching me and i loved it. I was a good worker. Showed up every day as always, was dependable and willing to work hard. But at my third year at Mass they laid me off anyway. And i have bounced ever since.
    So now i have my license and i'm not worth $37 an hour ok?
    That's the fucking sad truth and it's not my fault. I came to my union rep, Mr. Nigro, and he turned his fucking back on me.
    Now i know the man has helped many others, but that is their story, not mine.
    I hope Tom Otool, who seems to be bright, and capable, will take the time to examine this situation. Other union have steps in place that minimize this kind of thing, and Local 103 needs to follow siut for the sake of its own future. You may not give a fuck about me and my problems, but the more guys like me that turn out, and their are plenty, the worse it looks for all of us. In the end its another nail in our coffin.

    And despite what you may whant to unfairly think about me, i did want to learn, i did work hard, i was an "A" student at the school.
    I was NOT some lazy asshole.
    And my story is one that many share. THE CURRENT APPRENTICE SYSTEM NEEDS TO CHANGE IF LOCAL 103 INTENDS TO TURN OUT BETTER JOURNEYMEN. The Big Dig era fucked too many of us. The chase for the buck was so maddening that a lot of apprentices, especially Mass Electric apprentices, got lost in the cracks and this needs to stop. It's too late for me and others, but please, let's put a system in place that ensures that eack apprentice is learning on the job what he or she should be learning. After all,
    like it or not, todays apprentice has to pay YOUR retirement fund.
  24. I also want to say some good things about 103.
    Yes, they do insure me and my familly when i am unemployed.
    This is almost unheard of any place else in the world, in ANY trade or profession. (Except politics ha ha ) Those people work four years and get taken care of after, what a joke. But that is another subject.

    I cant stand listening to people like Howie Carr. I worked and went to school for five years to work in a trade where i risk my life to some degree every day so why shouldn't i get paid good for it?

    In any system, the powerful and the connected will enjoy aan unfair amount of consideration, be it politics, the Army, or Local 103. For sure the Fat Cats at the Hall take care of their own, but who wouldn't? You telling me that If you were the BM you wouldn't help get your familly into the Globe? It sucks for sure not to be related and have to work twice as hard for everything you get, but it is what it is and always will be.

    I think the Local has it's political heads up thier butts lately, supporting Primary candidate after Primary candidte that has
    a) No chance of winning
    b) Is against out turbine work!

    I mean, if a guy has no real chance of getting in office, he can't help us right?

    And if one candidte is openly for the off shore turbine work and the other is against it, why the FUCK do they want us to vote for the guy who is against us? daaaaaa
  25. [quote]Originally posted by Unregistered
    Finally someone with an education on this this thread. I agree with everything you have just said. I think the problem with all of these complaints is they are coming from piss ignorant grunts or old men that have nothing better to do than bitch. As for everyone that works at the hall and school,Hats off. Everyone in the field bashes them because their not in a position to have or take their job. Yours too,Im sure your bashed out on the job site for the fact nobody thinks you work hard. Hats off to you brother, I know for a fact you work harder than anyone in the field.Ive worked along side someone in your position for a day and you couldnt pay me enough/not now anyway. Ill stick to my current job title for now/Jrnymn. Signed:Josh Weatherly Local 20 Fort Worth,Texas [/QUOTE

    No dude,he's not all wrong but yea,
    people who ARE working and poison the job al day really suck, i'll give you that. But to say that things are perfect down at the Hall and equally fair to ALL workers is as inacurate as anything our troubled brother has to say
  26. So why doesn't anybody use their real name?

    www.ourlocal424.ca
  27. whats up ? i just stumbled across this forum when i was looking for the local 103 website..ive been a member of 103 for 15 years now and ive had my share of layoffs .but i knew when i got in that there were going to be times when there was no work .ive had some great years and some real shitty years .ive even had my house forclosed on .(so yeah not working realy sucks). but i got to say i cant sit back and blame everyone else for whats going on in my own life..hopefully things will turn around soon .good luck brothers
  28. Quote:
    Originally posted by Unregistered
    You are an uneducated, ignorant asshole. You have no idea as to what our Business Manager, and his agents have done for not only us, but for our community, and some of them are working seven days a week on their own time. For whatever reason you are disgruntled, I would be willing to bet that it is your own doing, you ought to look in to the mental health area of your life. The people that run local 103 have one thing in mind, securing jobs for our membership, and helping contractors like myself to get those jobs, so that I can hire an asshole like you, and then you can come to work for me, spend more time complaining than working, and then sink the job. People like you think that it's everyone else's fault when the reality of it is, it is your fault. Believe it or not, and fortunately, most of our membership give 8 for 8. Those are the people that stay working, and those are the people that the contractor will go to any length to keep employed. Exactly what is it that you want from the people at 103? Should they ride bicycles to work, or pull up in some shitbox? The Crown Vic's that they drive are more than reasonable, and personally I would like to have them drive large SUV's with 4 wheel drive, so that they are able to safely visit any jobsite without getting stuck in mud, snow, etc. Our Business Manager starts his day very early, I have seen him on a jobsite at 5AM to speak with the men prior to their 6AM start. This is not unusual for him, and he ends his day very late. I can guarantee you that he works harder than anyone carrying a tool bag. The mental stress that he is under on a daily basis is extreme. The decisions that he makes akways has someone pissed off, and it is a job that he can have, and I would never want. Then, to top it off, there is an asshole like you spewing lies about Local 103, and the men and women that run it. Our trust fund administrator, and all of the people at the school work equally hard. All of these people that you know nothing about, and have the balls to make a general, and anonymous I might add, statement, full of lies, really disturbs me. You are the type of person that poisons a job site. You are like a cancerous tumor spreading your disease to others that are as equally uneducated as you. If you don't like it, change it. Vote! Obviously the majority of our membership see's what I see, the positive growth, dedication, hard work, and day to day dilligence of our elected officials that steer the ship on Freeport Street. The best thing you can do is follow your plan, go work non-union. You will be helping the union out by making us more competitive against any shop you work for. Personally, I don't go for anonymity. My name is Frank Kelly, and if you don't like what I said do something to change it. Come out from your spiderhole, get educated. You have people listening to you, it's what they are thinking about you that you should be concerned with. Local 103, and almost all unions are constantly scrutinized by the government, almost to the point of harassment. You are insane to even suggest the opinions that you have, and all of the other anonymous poison spreaders like yourself keep hiding. The men and women that run Local 103 can walk proud with their head up knowing the good that they do each day, and they will continue to fight for what is right, even for tumors like you.

  29. Quote:
    Originally posted by j hill
    thanks frank.i dont think ive ever met you but id like to shake your hand.take care
  30. Quote:
    Originally posted by Unregistered
    heys sounds like wayne griffin finally figured out how to post a wed site. listen , heres the deal. dont listen to the clown who posted this site. take it from me , im a new member. this union has changed my entire life style. i went from under class the middle class the night i was sworn in. this summer i took two weeks off for a vacation i cfould afford.why dear god do you non union guys sell your selfs short, oh wait a min, its not selling your self short , its called the merit shop mantality, hey when i was salting constar, i got the biggest kick out of the way the rats all threw each other under the bus. talk about kissing ass. anyway why dont those of you who have the gutts it take to salt come to our hall. we need a few good me.

    p.s


    the sad part is that most likely this one of the dead beats from our own local who needs a beating
    Take it from you because you are new? If you are "NEW" what can you know? I had three first great years too and loved it. And then I got laid off and have suffered much of the thinks that are said on this sight. I hope it goes better for you than it did for me.
    It helps to have connections but I do not. Being a great worker helps too but there are plenty of great workers at home right now and for you to think that you are somehow better than every one of them is foolish. Get this, I call the hall almost every day for jobs. There are no calls but my name keeps going down on the list???????? What is going on with that????? I'm talking hundreds of jobs, say 600 I have gone down and there have only been about 100 on the recorder! So this BROTHERHOOD has favorites for sure and plenty of men better than me and you are getting fucked.
  31. [quote]Originally posted by j hill
    [/QUOTE

    You are right but the system is not fair to all. It is not equal.
    The biggest problem is that too many new people were hired in the last few years. Other Locals like the Millrights and Laborers are carefull to keep numbers down during bad times. Maybe I was one of them that got hired when things were about to slow down but it is what it is. We have about a thousand too many people right now.
  32. 103 would be the best union in Massachusetts if only we did not have about 1000 too many workers! The big dig was ending, the economy was going south, and the Hall kept adding new members as fast as they could!

    Other locals are carefull not to do this. Someone got carried away trying to get every electrician and wannabe in the state to join even though work was declining! I understant the whole baby boomer/retirement thing but this should have been planned for long ago instead of hiring when there is no work!
  33. The take up on a 555 bender is 16 and an eigth for 2" rigid. The radius for the 2" rigid shoe is 9.78" on a 555 bender. This would give you a gain of just over 4 and 3/16" (90 degree gain factor .4292 x radius) not 7". On a 'reverse bend' you must add your take-up (16.125) to the desired distance (80") to determine where your bend mark is to be located.
  34. From the wife's point of view- i support the union and my husband as a 103 member. I dont agree with what this person is saying. My husband is a hard worker, damn good at his job, not lazy, nor late. and true believer in the union. And i have to be honest and say that i have days that the union does make me angry my husband has been out of work for over a year and we have 2 young kids to support. i dont think its fair that he cant get a job with a non union company, the union is not helping us pay our bills and feed our family at the moment. I wish they were doing more to secure more jobs. Things are tight and get tighter every day. Where is the money that was suppose to be going to upgrade the all the schools and gov buildings Obama promised, that is suppose to be helping out our electricians!
  35. Boston Local 10ME, is without a doubt, the "WORST IBEW LOCAL" of them all!!!!!!!!! With the "FAMILY CONNECTION'S, SOLICITATION'S,TRANSFER'S,90 DAY RE-CRAWL'S and CALL BY NAME'S, there is no "BROTHERHOOD". It's all about "MEMBER'S" who work for "MY SHOP", it's "ME", F@#K the other "BROTHER'S", I got "MINE, F@#K YOU". It dosent have anything to do with how hard you work. It's how low can you go and if you can swallow the whole load without gagging or missing a drop!!!!!!! If you are on a job and you speek up about thing's being done that are against the contract we agreed upon, you get a check. If you speek up about bad job condition's, you get a check. The "HALL" won't back you either, they will agree with the foreman and shop. I know this, Ive lost my share of employment because I spoke up for what was right, only to have no support from my "BALL-LESS MEMBER" co-worker's. They would rather "CRAWL" away and do what the "SHOP" tell's them to do, than to "STAND UP-RITE" on their own two feet.
    LOCAL 10ME "INTERNATIONAL BROTHERF@#KER'S OF ELECTRICAL WORM'S"
  36. I am looking for an experienced server the Roadrunner in New River, if you are more flexible with your hours...let me know
  37. Whats happening 103 brothers and all you Rats.. I'm a Rat. I work my balls off. 40 hours plus for a non-union shop. And I'm balls to the wall with sidework. I wish I could get in with u DOT boys. But, u aint taking any applications and there are too many electricians on the bench. I don't apologize and if the opportunity presents itself I'd go Union in a heartbeat. I currently pay for everything out of my own Net Pay. I envy the Union because its true there is Power in numbers. Being on the other side of the fence though I respect the Non Union employer to. They work there balls off to own a business and I take a lot of pride in whatever shop I work for to get the job done. No Apologies I get after it. If I can't get into the Union my only alternative is to start my own shop. Because working Non-Union barely gets by and if you have a family I'm all set with struggling. I'm an all or nothing person. If I'm Union I'm Union. If I can't get into the Union, I'll make the most of my Situation and my Families future. Because for me the truth is I am a Provider and that is the Bottom Line. Good Luck to all of Us! Get Er Done!
  38. So, it'd be interesting to see a current quote about the IBEW. Last entry in this string was 2010, I believe....Now, Its 2011, we've survivied a recession, a financial depression, and now fallout from Japan. 2012 just around the corner....whats next? Just a point....IBEW/NECA have always been in bed together. And the government likes the control aspect of organized labor. Get hip to the trip, bro, its been this way forever! (I've got 30 yrs in!) After 9-11 ya gave up more rights-and by September 2008, average U.S. housing prices had declined by over 20% from their mid-2006 peak. As prices declined, borrowers with adjustable-rate mortgages could not refinance to avoid the higher payments associated with rising interest rates and began to default. During 2007, lenders began foreclosure proceedings on nearly 1.3 million properties, a 79% increase over 2006. This increased to 2.3 million in 2008, an 81% increase vs. 2007. By August 2008, 9.2% of all U.S. mortgages outstanding were either delinquent or in foreclosure. By September 2009, this had risen to 14.4%. So, [Sept-2008] that then must have been the official decline of the IBEW marketshare, down to 12% union, nationally. At any rate, So where are ya now? Ratin? Workin for yourself? Sittin on a dozen different Local Union-IBEW out-of work lists? Or have you applied at Wal Mart for the greeter position......lol. Hakuna matata. Its the circle of life. Interesting note-that might ease your mind; If you are worth $50,000 net, then you are in the top 10% of the wealthiest in the world population. $500,000 puts you in the top 1%.
    :-)
  39. ..........and work for a real UNION...........we'll keep you working and food on your table!!
  40. This was an interesting post